Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2020-04-26/In the media


 * Katherine Maher said the committed, meticulous and sometimes eccentric community of volunteer editors are the actual bosses of the encyclopedia, not her. Really? Well, the WMF certainly doesn't act that way! MER-C 18:48, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Looks like the Telegraph interview is paywalled. On the one hand, there's some irony there. On the other hand, journalists aren't volunteers like Wikipedians and need to get paid. On the third hand, I'm not going to pay whatever The Daily Telegraph wants to charge me to read the only article of theirs I'm likely going to be interested in for the foreseeable future. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 19:16, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , here czar  19:29, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * And the jew-tagging article from Commentary is fascinating. I can see both sides here — the author's concerns are very reasonable and sympathetic. His argument for removal is basically that a mention is WP:UNDUE, but it seems like a borderline case, and I'm not sure whether him referring to himself in his piece as "a proud if non-observant Jew" bolsters or hurts that argument. If his article was Featured status, it would be long enough that a brief mention would probably be warranted, but it's not. This is the same situation we had when we were trying to figure out how to write about The North Face's Wikipedia editing scandal. I brought up the general question of how to handle WP:UNDUE for less developed articles at the pump, but it needs further discussion — it's still not clear whether WP:UNDUE is in reference to the article in its current state or in its hypothetical featured state. For anyone who wants to engage with the (predictably messy and sprawling) discussion on the jew tagging question, see the author's article here. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 19:58, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I've started a discussion at WT:NPOV on the general question of how WP:UNDUE applies to less developed articles. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 21:01, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The parallels to Triple parentheses are enough to make my skin crawl. I hope we come up with a stringent standard for this. ☆ Bri (talk) 21:11, 26 April 2020 (UTC)


 * And this is where I would put a contribution to writting wikipedia in an indigenous language...if only my country could show some interest in it! -Gouleg (Talk • Contribs) 13:16, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Looks like the NoFap folks have a problem with WP:NPOV and WP:MEDRS. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  17:10, 29 April 2020 (UTC)