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Move?[edit]

Shouldn't this be moved to "Transgender and transsexual anime and manga" to fit with the other trans categories? see WP:LGBT/CAT for examples. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 18:10, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think so, because doing so would risk narrowing the scope. "Related" is more inclusive of various connections or characters. Ranma 1/2 for example, could be described as more of a comedy or fighting anime than a 'transgender' themed one. Related allows its inclusion though. Ranze (talk) 06:19, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Severe Excess[edit]

I mean no offense to the LGBT community, but it seems like some people trying to support them are just a little overzealous. There are a ton of anime and manga that have absolutely nothing to do with transsexualism that have been marked as part of this category. For instance, Ranma 1/2 is the story of a guy, who was born a guy and continues to live as a guy and is desperately trying to find a way to get rid of a curse that causes him to become a girl biologically any time he touches cold water; another example is I My Me Strawberry Eggs, where a man decides to pretend to be a woman so that he could prove to a misandrist school administrator that his being a man didn't make him incapable of teaching students properly. As I understand it, a transsexual is a person who does not identify as their assigned gender. True, there are anime and manga characters that fit this bill, as well as characters who show a desire to do so. However, it doesn't seem appropriate to include in this bill things like people who put on a dress to prove a point (I My Me), or who through some accident end up transforming back and forth (Ranma 1/2, Gacha Gacha), or who have to stay on alert to stop a mad doctor from performing gender-change surgery on them (Pretty Face). Shouldn't this be a bit more specific? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.30.49.192 (talk) 09:55, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ranma is certainly transgendered when in female form, often exclaiming "I'm a guy!" while a morphological female and seeming to experience some degree of gender dysphoria. Many of the other referenced manga and anime touch on transgender issues in similar manners. 65.102.176.190 (talk) 07:10, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think the issue is, we're using words to describe a human condition, but categorizing supernatural happenings within that same human condition. I think it might be worth, if we really want to go this route, to create two categories - one for anime/manga that deal with transgender/transsexualism without any supernatural happenings, and then another that does. But that seems to far, as well - so the other option is, to be explicit that this category can contain any sort of gender-bending whether by magic or otherwise.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 13:39, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A split like that is a future possibility if we reach enough media to warrant sub-classification. As it is we're still under a page though. I don't think we necessarily need to be explicit about anything. "Comedy" is also a human condition but we don't have to explain that Tokimeki Tonight is a vampire/werewolf comedy. Ranze (talk) 06:19, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

To call this "gender dysphoria" is probably over-medicalizing it. 86.144.31.208 (talk) 13:49, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not really... fits the symptoms. Or should we wait until a psychiatrist is paid to assess Mr. Saotome? Ranze (talk) 06:19, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A few older manga/anime suggestions[edit]

To whoever curates this list: Might I suggest some older media like "Angel Sanctuary" (Arachne), "Fushigi Yûgi" (Nuriko), and "The Rose of Versailles"?

(In the last case, the protagonist Oscar was raised as a boy and lives as close to the life of a man as they can in a setting that, apart from the "female" protagonist's military career, is a realistic depiction of 18th century France. Besides, this manga and anime series were created in the 1970s - so you know, censorship. And I've heard that this character actually does use a more masculine version of the Japanese "I" than women normally would, at least in scenes where Oscar is talking to close and trusted friends. A few years later, the same artist created the manga "Claudine", which was more explicitly about a trans male protagonist, but which was also not nearly so successful and therefore didn't turn into a widely known cultural touchstone like "The Rose of Versailles" did in Japan and to a lesser degree for 80s/90s kids throughout Western/Central Europe, except for the UK that didn't get a localisation.) 178.5.166.216 (talk) 07:17, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]