Draft talk:Sun Haven

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I am Currently looking for more reliable reviews from major platforms (i.e. Metacritic and Rock Paper Shotgun) and a suitable image. There are currently little to no reviews from major platforms.

Keep in mind i am a new editor (only started dec 2023) so dont worry if something is wrong. I also dont mind if an experienced editor will edit this page (even though i started this article). Also note that Sun Haven is both the name of the game and one of the settlements. Breathinkeeps32 (talk) 00:43, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 5 January 2024[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Reading Beans 06:45, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sun Haven (video game) → Sun Haven – The video game Sun Haven is more popular than its neighborhood. Therefore, the primary topic for Sun Haven should the 2023video game now. In addition, there are only 7 what links here to the Sun Haven redirect page what links here and none of them are from the article space. Breathinkeeps32 (talk) 02:38, 5 January 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 162 etc. (talk) 19:50, 5 January 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 06:41, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Primary topic grabs are, by definition, not uncontroversial. 162 etc. (talk) 07:18, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Video games has been notified of this discussion. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 21:36, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Since this request was placed, another editor has converted the Sun Haven redirect to a disambiguation page. However, only two of the subjects listed on the disambiguation page have their own articles: Sun Haven (video game), and Sun Haven Studios. It seems more logical to have the video game covered at Sun Haven with a hatnote linking to Sun Haven Studios.--Martin IIIa (talk) 03:39, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose The game doesn't seem notable. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:00, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Relatively obscure video game should not have precedence over the disambiguation page where many other possible Sun Havens exist. --Masem (t) 16:57, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I mean, if you look at the disambiguation page for Sun Haven, none of these places have a page of their own (aside from this and Sun Haven Studios and it is far from reaching the notability criteria. I feel like Sun Haven Studios is also obscure and therefore not really notable given that it has less text than this article, is almost 100 years old and has only made three films Breathinkeeps32 (talk) 21:40, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not really seeing much of an argument for supporting or opposing honestly. The video game, while I do believe scrapes by the minimum standards for being notable, seems to be a pretty minor release. But none of the other "Sun Havens" seem notable at all, and the studio already has a WP:NATDAB. Flimsy all around... Sergecross73 msg me 17:07, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Surely being borderline for notability doesn't disqualify an article from being a primary topic even when it's the only notable topic with that name. Otherwise, the logical thing to do would be to move articles like Iron Angel of the Apocalypse: The Return and Freefall 3050 A.D. to include "(video game)" disambiguation. Martin IIIa (talk) 18:16, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
7 day Update comment: forgot to mention that since someone converted the Sun Haven redirect to an article, it could either be deleted, possible under criteria G14 of the speedy deletion sort of things (not moved to 'Sun Haven (disambiguation)') since only this and Sun Haven Studios are currently the only ones with Sun Haven in its name or move Sun Haven to Sun Haven (disambiguation) (make sure to delete the redirect to make way for the name) followed by Sun Haven (video game) to Sun Haven.

Also, I'm sure that the person who nominated the move (in this case, me) automatically counts as a support since I just started editing on WP (and even created the article). Otherwise, support - as nom. Breathinkeeps32 (talk) 22:22, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose not a primary topic, and (video game) seems to be accurate. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:57, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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