Module talk:Adjacent stations/Rutland Railroad

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@Cards84664: Some comments on the changes you've made:

  • White Creek is not ideal to list as the terminus, since it was an arbitrary division point (state line) rather than a major station. Even by 1912 it was only served by a few trains, and by 1935 it was abandoned. I think we should list Troy as the terminus; it appears that all trains running past North Bennington went at least as far as Troy.
  • There were always an equal number of trains on the Rutland-Bellows Falls and Rutland-White Creek sections, and they were treated equally in the 1935 and later timetables; I'm not sure if we should assign one to be the "main" line. Perhaps we should just have Troy and Bellows Falls services, rather than designating one as the mainline.
  • The northern section is complicated. In 1912, mainline services ran north from Alburgh towards Montreal, with Ogdensburg–Alburgh treated as a branch line. In 1935, mainline services ran to Rouses Point, with no service north from Alburgh; schedules still showed Ogdensburg–Alburgh, though the two Ogdensburg round trips ran through to Rutland and south.
  • You are correct that the Rutland used a separate Rouses Point station from the D&H. However, it's not likely to be notable enough for a separate article. I'd like to have a paragraph about the Rutland station at Rouses Point station and point the Rutland templates there, rather than having a permanent redlink.
  • On the 1912 timetable, it looks like Bennington–North Bennington shuttles connected to mainline trains at North Bennington. We should not that train service, not just the later bus service.

That would give us the following services: Ogdensburg–Alburgh, Rouses Point–Troy, Rouses Point–Bellows Falls, Bennington–North Bennington, Chatham Branch (Chatham–Bennington), Addison Branch (Fort Ticonderoga–Leicester Junction). I'll also add the Green Mountain Flyer/Mount Royal to give a sense of through services. Does that sound like a reasonable plan? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 18:24, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    • @Pi.1415926535:
    • White Creak appears in a 1952 official guide with no times listed, would that still be arbitrary or a flag stop? Also I'm unsure if Troy can be classified as trackage rights with regular Rutland engines, something to look into.
    • Now that you mention it, we could go with something similar to C&O listing a Main Line with a fork at the end. That could be with or without a notemid for either Troy and/or Bellows Falls.
    • Did the service north of Rouses Point use CN trackage rights to Montreal?
    • Bluelinking to the paragraph makes sense to me, as long as there's a note in the template.
    • How would you implement named trains in station succession? Cards84664 04:15, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      • I'm not closely familiar with the Official Guides; I prefer timetables from the individual railroads when possible. Per this 1949 ETT, the B&M handled trains as far as North Bennington. I think we can put North Bennington as the terminus, and just note in that article that it was the interchange point.
      • Service north of Rouses Point was handled directly by the CN, not trackage rights.
      • Okay, I'll add that to the article.
      • No differently than the unnamed services - just like it's done for Amtrak trains. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 04:54, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]