Talk:1992 Football League Third Division play-off final

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Good article1992 Football League Third Division play-off final has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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March 23, 2021Good article nomineeListed
September 19, 2021Good topic candidatePromoted
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Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on February 28, 2021.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the opening goal of the 1992 Football League Third Division play-off Final was described as a "Russian linesman job"?
Current status: Good article

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 19:30, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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5x expanded by The Rambling Man (talk). Self-nominated at 11:07, 11 February 2021 (UTC).[reply]

  • Newness requirement satisfied by 5x expansion between 2/8 and 2/11. Article is also long enough, well written and sourced, and Earwig detects no issues. Hook is short enough and interesting. For some reason, the hook source (from The Times) isn't fully loading for me, but it's accepted in good faith from an established user. QPQ requirement is satisfied. My only suggestion is to delink "Russia linesman" ---> Tofiq Bahramov. When I read the hook, the intrigue led me to want to click to that article rather than the subject article. If the goal is to drive viewers and eyeballs to the subject article, delinking Baramov will clearly help. I leave that decision up to the nominator. Cbl62 (talk) 20:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: Usernameunique (talk · contribs) 06:18, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Lead

  • Peterborough goalkeeper Fred Barber failed to catch it, and Francis scored to level the game — Same comment as below (second comment re: "Summary").
    I'm not sure why this is a challenge, the goalkeeper failed to catch a shot (i.e. he didn't keep hold of it) so it went free for someone else (Francis) to score it. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:07, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Route to the final

Background

  • Stockport had most recently played at Wembley Stadium eight days before the play-off final when they played Stoke City (who they had defeated in the play-off semi-finals) in the Associate Members' Cup Final, losing 1–0. — This starts in the present (playing at Wembley), jumps back two matches (cup final), then moves forward a match (semi-final). I wonder if the subject is better addressed in "Route to the Final"? At the beginning of the Stockport–Stoke paragraph you could mention the cup final, and at the end of the paragraph you could say that Stockport moved on to Wembley, for the second time in eight days.
    I rephrased, more elegantly I think. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 12:44, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Peterborough were making their first appearance at the national stadium. — Had Stockport played there before, other than the cup final just mentioned?
    I've got sources which imply that but nothing explicit so I can't guarantee it. Besides, this is really a chance to say when the clubs last played there, rather than ho many times in total they might have played there. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 12:41, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Peterborough's Gannon — Stockport's Gannon, no?
    Yes. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:59, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wembley could use a link somewhere besides "Details"
    Done. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:15, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Summary

  • Kevin Francis won a number of corners, one of which was headed wide of the Peterborough goal by Tony Barras. — How did the ball get from Francis to Barras's head?
    From the corner. See Corner kick which is now linked. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:07, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    So Francis was the one who took the corners? The "won" makes it sound as if he was the one who controlled the ball after someone else took the corners, not as if he was the one who took them. --Usernameunique (talk) 02:52, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Preece struck the ball from 15 yards (14 metres) which the Peterborough goalkeeper Fred Barber failed to catch and Francis scored — I'm a bit confused by what happened here. Barber struck it towards the goal, but what happened them? Did Barber miss the ball, and Francis redirected it into the goal? Or did Barber block it, and Francis scored off the rebound?
    No, Preece shot, Barber failed to hold on to it, so Francis scored from Barber's mis-handling. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:07, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • newly branded League Division 1 — What does "newly branded" mean here? Newly named? Newly reorganized? This might be better mentioned in the first paragraph of "Route to the final".
    It means it had a new brand so I've linked the word. I'll add something also to the background section, as noted somewhere else in this review. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:54, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Details

Post-match

References

Overall

Usernameunique responded to all the issues (I think, a little haphazard today, stuff like "work" got in the way) including a new para relating to the nomenclature change for the Divisions. Let me know what you think. Cheers (as always) for the review. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 12:53, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The Rambling Man, passing now. Left one comment above, but even looking at the source I'm not really sure what it means. --Usernameunique (talk) 02:57, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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