Talk:1998 Football League Second Division play-off final

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by MeegsC (talk) 21:04, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

(

• Comment or view
• Article history

)

• ... that despite his side winning the 1998 Football League Second Division play-off Final, Grimsby's Alan Buckley said "Anybody who says they enjoy play-offs aren't football managers"?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Good Karma

5x expanded by The Rambling Man (talk). Self-nominated at 15:10, 3 April 2021 (UTC).

• This article is a fivefold expansion and is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral, and I detected no policy issues. A QPQ has been done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:36, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:1998 Football League Second Division play-off Final/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 19:59, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Shall review MWright96 (talk) 19:59, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Lead

• "The top two teams of the 1997–98 Football League Second Division league, Watford and Bristol City, gained automatic promotion to the First Division, while the teams placed from third to sixth place" - repetition of "teams"
• "The losing semi-finalists were Bristol Rovers and Fulham who had been defeated by Northampton Town and Grimsby Town respectively." - don't think town is needed in the names of the winning semi-finalists
• The term foul can be linked to the correct article on its sole mention
• Wikilink penalty to the relevant article only on the first mention

Route to the final

• "Grimsby Town finished the regular 1997–98 season in third place in the Second Division, the third tier of the English football league system, one place and one point ahead of Northampton Town." - repetition of "place"
• "and the first match of the two-legged tie took place at the Memorial Ground in Bristol on 10 May 1998." - no mention of this in The Independent source. Another one is needed specially to verify the accuracy of this fact
• The term fould can also be wikilinked to the relevant article on the first mention in the body
• Aggregate victory also needs to be wikilinked to the correct entry for non-Football readers on just the first mention of the term

  Aggregate is linked the previous sentence. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:10, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

• Substitution can also be wikilinked to the relevant entry
• "The second leg took place at Blundell Park near Grimsby four days later." - same query as the second point in this section

Background

• Wembley Stadium will need to be linked to Wembley Stadium (old)
• "In the games between the sides during the regular season, both teams won their home games," - repetition of "games"

Summary

• Is there genuinely so little information that there is only a single paragraph to describe every major event that happened during the match?

  It was a match of little interest. I'll see what more I can dig out but for GA, the key things are covered here.

  I found a little more in The Guardian which I appear to have overlooked, so I've added that in there too, including a quote about how dull the first half was! The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:33, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

• "Freestone's missed chance was Northampton's opportunity of the half." - what opportunity of the half?

Shall put the review on hold to allow the nominator to address or query any of the points raised here MWright96 (talk) 20:36, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

MWright96 cheers, all addressed bar the ones I've commented on above. Thanks so much for the review. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:10, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man: Now promoting to GA class MWright96 (talk) 13:32, 6 May 2021 (UTC)