Talk:2009 Peace Cup

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"Routine news coverage of such things as … sports"[edit]

…is unencyclopaedic, per WP:IINFO. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 19:49, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

the table and everything[edit]

just like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup#Matches and many other articles about upcoming tournaments, I don't believe they are unencyclopaedic, as they exist. User:rokengalan —Preceding undated comment added 14:32, 13 July 2009 (UTC).[reply]

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a good argument for retention. And I would point out that the tables in question have a far more prominent source (the South African government) than yours do. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 15:42, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Citation errors[edit]

If you are going to remove named refs, then it is your responsibility to clean up the citation errors caused by further usages of them. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 16:34, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Disproportionate coverage[edit]

Given that only 1 of the 12 teams is Korean, I find it odd that one third (5/15) of the sources are Korean. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 16:58, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

most of the resources are in Korean because it is organized by a Korean organization.rokengalan (talk) 02:01, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Which does rather raise questions as to its prominence and notability. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 05:11, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2/14 = 1/7 rokengalan (talk) 12:33, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've just added two further American sources, and the United States doesn't have any participating teams in the competition. matt91486 (talk) 00:55, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Material in 'Matches' section that is NOT IN THE CITED SOURCE![edit]

I would point out that the sole cited source ONLY lists the draw. It:

  • DOES NOT list individual fixtures
  • DOES NOT list venues
  • DOES NOT list dates and times.

So including this information is IN GROSS VIOLATION of WP:V. It has therefore been removed.

But even if it DID list such, an article that is purely or mostly based upon such information IS NOT ENCYCLOPAEDIC -- see WP:IINFO quote above. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 11:06, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So, nevermind that the official site has the list of matches with opponents, dates, time, and venue...? Digirami (talk) 18:13, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
An article is meant to rely primarily on third-party secondary sources -- not the primary source of the topic's own website. If you can't find "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject", and all that you have with any depth is "the official site has the list of matches with opponents, dates, time, and venue...", then the topic is not notable. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 19:01, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

citation[edit]

Material in matches section has been cited 60.234.80.110 (talk) 13:32, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal reminder[edit]

A merger proposal has been notified on this article (see template at top of article), and discussion has been open at Talk:Peace Cup#Merger proposal (linked to from that template), for the last couple of weeks. Unless any comment is made (in that discussion section) citing a valid and relevant objection (see WP:MERGE#Criteria for the applicable merger criteria), I will shortly be closing the discussion, and merging the articles. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 10:34, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merged[edit]

Per discussion in proposal cited above &

Routine news coverage of such things as announcements, sports, and tabloid journalism are not sufficient basis for an article.

HrafnTalkStalk(P) 08:14, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Odd…[edit]

…according to this edit, the competition has already finished. Seems unlikely, so I'll revert. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 08:28, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That is what we call funny Vandalism. We see like this act in almost all of the sport related articles. Mussav (talk) 09:26, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Participated teams[edit]

Would it be better in a list and without "Participated" in the subsection title?

==Teams==

12 teams are confirmed to play in the tournament[9]

  • flag Team
  • flag Team
  • flag Team

and so on.Cptnono (talk)

Group stage[edit]

Would it be better to have the group stage section look like UEFA Champions League 2007–08#Group Stage#Group A? I'm comparing format styles and noting more.

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