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Coverage[edit]

Considering the fact that the results of the events could be subject to many people vandalising with joke names, should there be some kind of policy regarding referencing? JaeDyWolf ~ Baka-San (talk) 22:57, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Joke names are added all the time, and normally removed quickly, but I'm not sure what you mean by referencing since I assume we would always use the name posted on the official site... unless you mean like "instant adds" right when a tournament is done and the official site has not yet been updated. Is that what you mean? If you mean referncing individual items, I'd say no way. The only reference for results should be the official site. 2005 (talk) 23:15, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I was more concerned with the fact that a lot of these names will be new, and each time the page is edited the name will need to be checked against another site to make sure it's correct. For some reason I hadn't considered the official site and was only thinking about Poker news pages! JaeDyWolf ~ Baka-San (talk) 00:33, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The WSOP page is the best source.---Balloonman ^{NO! I'm Spartacus!} 08:09, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Should be interesting[edit]

I'm looking forward to seeing some reliable sources for this... but according to the Pokerjunkie, a lifetime ban has been issued to somebody for cheating at this years WSOP. The way the PJ broke the news makes it sound like there is a story here and that it might be a rare event.---Balloonman ^{NO! I'm Spartacus!} 08:08, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I can't find any link regarding that story... and I was lookin forward to an interesting read, too! This reminds me of one of the WSOP updates where one of the cards in the $50K Player's Championship event, an A♠, had a small chip in one of its corners. I don't know whether those were related or not, but all I heard from that was that they switched it out and carried on playing. JaeDyWolf ~ Baka-San (talk) 10:54, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Aha, nevermind I found it. Not too sure how far it could be considered a reliable source nor whether it's encyclopaedic enough to warrant a mention in an article, though. [1] JaeDyWolf ~ Baka-San (talk) 11:43, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, now that details have come out... what I saw was the PJ's trying to hype the article he was working on. Looks like a mere case of some guy (who isn't identified) trying to steal chips off of another player's stack... getting caught... and banned. It might have been notable if the person being banned was notable, or the cheating was more than one of opportunity (Eg collusion, marking cards, etc.) But the news, now that it has been published, is probably not going to go anywhere.---Balloonman ^{NO! I'm Spartacus!} 03:39, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the story Player Banned from WSOP Forever, Pollack's New Gig, and More indeed interesting and ooooh so stupid. might deserve a mention in the 2010 WSOP article depending how much press it gets but as of right now maybe not ▪◦▪≡SiREX≡^Talk 15:27, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Something else many live pros love to needle internet players, an interesting example at the 2010 WSOP quote by Hellmuth, "Oh my god, we've got a live misclick!". doubt anyone can think of it being used in an article but couldn't pass up passing on this Hellmuthian quote -▪◦▪≡SiREX≡^Talk 00:19, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that certainly brightened my morning! I doubt I'd have seen that one otherwise, so I really appreciate the link. Cheers! JaeDyWolf ~ Baka-San (talk) 05:59, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

also doubtful for the article but interesting AA vs KK, KK vs AA same two players!. ▪◦▪≡SiREX≡^Talk 07:39, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple Winners[edit]

I think it is quite interesting that there was only one multiple bracelet winner this year, as compared to 5 last year. Has anybody seen any RS talk on this?---Balloonman ^{NO! I'm Spartacus!} 20:25, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'd noticed that, too! also bearing in mind that Jeff Lisandro won three! Of course, it could all change after the Main Event! Maybe more in-depth analysis will be carried out after Day 7 or November and I'm sure there could be some mention after more things are known for sure. JaeDyWolf ~ Baka-San (talk) 21:40, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Frank Kassela is the only one that got the cigar this year (so far ;-))

I'm always surprise when there are any multi winners with the tough fields and high level of variances in the game (bad beats, cold decks, coin flips, traps) (not to mention many internet wiz-kids are turning 21)

However there are some true talents out there that seem to be good or lucky at fading such pitfalls

There were a few close but no cigars this year:

James Dempsey 1st & 2nd
Miguel Proulx 1st & 2nd
Men Nguyen 1st & 2nd
Jeffrey Papola 1st & 2nd
Richard Ashby 1st & 2nd

Other multi final tableist were:

Vladimir Shchemelev 2nd ,7th ,7th , 4th
Michael Mizrachi 1st ,6th ,8th
John Juanda 4th,5th ,4th 3rd
Dan Heimiller 2nd & 4th
Daniel Alaei 1st & 7th
Jameson Painter 4th,5th & 7th
Jennifer Harman 3rd & 6th
David Baker (bakes) 1st & 6th (there another David who FT but not ther same)
Terrence Chan 3rd & 8th
Al Barbieri 2nd & 6th
Jason Somerville SF (heads-up) & 4th
Matt Matros 1st & 9th

▪◦▪≡SiREX≡^Talk 21:54, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not to mention Frank Kassela's near-miss at his third bracelet! The talent of these people truly is remarkable. JaeDyWolf ~ Baka-San (talk) 22:19, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

this post almost echos what I said, the fields do look to be getting tougher. would be good to have an expert examine the stats and publish it so we may cite something :/ ▪◦▪≡SiREX≡^Talk 23:08, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The shere size makes it harder and harder to win. Jesus once said that the odds of him surviving his Main Event run were something along the lines of 1 in a hundred billion... that he took just the hands that he was all-in or had called somebody who was all in and calculated the odds of his surviving to be astronomically slim. The reason is that even if he were a 4:1 favorite everytime he was or called an all-in hand, the odds of winning 20 4:1 hands gets slimmer and slimmer. The larger fields make it even less probable. I think Doyle said a few years ago that based solely upon the size of the field, that you will never see a pro win the main event again. So one year doesn't make a trend... I think this year is an abnormality (just as last year was probably an abnormality the other way) and that you'll see more win multiple bracelets next year.---Balloonman ^{NO! I'm Spartacus!} 01:02, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Really? Considering that before the Main Event there has already been upward of 60,000 entrants (assuming the exclusion of repeats) competing for only 56 bracelets, I find it a remarkable feat that even ONE person can win more than 1 bracelet! As such, 2009 was an absolute freakshow! JaeDyWolf ~ Baka-San (talk) 01:46, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What Chris said is correct which is why good pros prefer not to have their hands go to show down (unless they have the nuts or close to it) or in they 3 bet and 4 bet preflop in order to even avoid the flop in many cases, mostly when the blinds get high enough where the player's fold equity can be more effective vs lower blinds when stacks are more even and when people will gamble more and shoot for implied odds on all type of drawing hands even junk rags like 46 suited 78 suited, 10-j off etc (a good cash player has an advantage as they are used to post flop play) but are too costly as the blinds bumps up, kidpoker fussed about the blind structure this year in the 25k 6 hand as it was allowing for less and less post flop play. I read many times where the a high chip count player in an event may had 2 or 3 all-in hands max before reaching the final table. ▪◦▪≡SiREX≡^Talk 03:18, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Phil's gone?[edit]

wow, I wonder what choice sound bytes he has this year... probably not too many as he didn't last too long and only made one final table...---Balloonman ^{NO! I'm Spartacus!} 05:06, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The top two reports tell what happen, here ▪◦▪≡SiREX≡^Talk 05:43, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Mizrachi's brothers[edit]

All Four of the Mizrachi's brothers have made it into Day 4 of the Main Event this report was after the Day 2's, this non-official reports going into day 4 are (Michael Mizrachi 109,000) , (Eric Mizrachi 128,000), (Danny Mizrachi 128,100) and (Robert Mizrachi 346,000) avg chip stack in the tournament is about 177,000 also keep an Eye out on Johnny Chan 636,000 and Johnny Lodden 656,400., This maybe note worthy around the end of Day 4 with the Mizrachi's brothers if the all survive, it expected that anyone that does survive will be ITM. ▪◦▪≡SiREX≡^Talk 06:58, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Update: All four cashed quite a feat considering that only 2 of the 19 past champions also cashed this year. however one has busted the other two are short by average with only Robert a little above the avg of 297,520 with 313,000 in chips. ▪◦▪≡SiREX≡^Talk 05:18, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A chip and a chair[edit]

This maybe an interesting addition depending how deep Gualter Salles run is, oddly enough the single T-1,000 chip he had to play with was kept by mistake much the way the story of a chip and a chair of a single T-500 by 1982 WSOP ME winner Jack Straus was not notice until after the fact. read here start from the bottom up , then read the end story here, Salles is now at 939,000 in chips!▪◦▪≡SiREX≡^Talk 07:05, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If he goes far, it might be an interesting note, especially in light of the "greatest comeback of all time". Jack's story is well known, but the details of it are lost. I've read several different accounts. Some putting the $500 chip on the first day (where it wouldn't have been the smallest denomination available) and others where it is the smallest chip in play. But if we have two major comebacks this year. Salles and the guy who went from 1.25 BB's to win the tournament... that could be something.---Balloonman ^{NO! I'm Spartacus!} 16:03, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Notes on controversy?[edit]

I remember reading during the tournament updates about some massive disagreement directly revolving around Prahlad Friedman as it happened; of course, it made its way to television and I'd argue that it's worthy of a mention in the article, maybe in a similar way to thhe 2006 World Series of Poker article. This link[2], I believe, would be reliable enough. JaeDyWolf ~ Baka-San (talk) 19:39, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Matt Damon[edit]

It says on Matt Damon's page that he competed in the main event. Should that be listed here?71.232.99.123 (talk) 03:26, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]