Talk:2011 GP2 Asia Series

Nationality of Julian Leal[edit]

Do you know why Leal is presented as an Italian on the GP2 Website? But in the article of the announcement, he is called 20-year-old Colombian Julian Leal. --Gamma127 (talk) 19:22, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It might simply be a mistake on his profile. Alternatively, his full name 'Omar Julian Leal Covelli' does sound quite Italian (the Covelli bit). This could also explain why he moved across to the Euroseries 3000 so early in his career and has raced mainly for Italian teams. The announcement article by the way is just a copy and paste of the Rapax press release. Whatever the reason, I'd wait and see what nationality is used during the tests and opening round before changing it. - mspete93 20:26, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We, from de-Wikipedia, are going to do the same. --Gamma127 (talk) 21:26, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Today in the feature race Leal was listed as an Italian too, so I changed his flag. I also changed the flag of Arden, because they were shown with a flag of the Netherlands today. --Gamma127 (talk) 14:49, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

His official website is in spanish and in it, news items more often than not start with the (spanish) words "Colombian driver Omar Julián Leal (...)". The site never refers to him as italian. It's likely that he simply has an italian racing license, as is normal for drivers to do, since he lives and works in Italy currently.--issoisso

The license is the important point. And futhermore: If the GP2 series lists him as an Italian, we should do so, too. They lists him as Italian on their website and in every TV info table. --Gamma127 (talk) 23:05, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand why you think the flag next to his name should be the country his driving license is from and not the country he's from--issoisso —Preceding undated comment added 11:51, 13 February 2011 (UTC).[reply]

In the GP2 Asia series he starts as an Italian, so we list him here as an Italian driver. ([1]) It is not unusual to start for different nations. For example look at Nico Rosberg. --Gamma127 (talk) 12:15, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We had a similar case with Romain Grosjean, because in F1 he had raced as French but was racing as Swiss in GT1. We decided there that we should use the flag used by the championship. - mspete93 12:45, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cancellation of the first event in Bahrain[edit]

As the event was cancelled before any sessions took place, I propose to remove it entirely from the driver and team results tables (whilst keeping it in the schedule table with the current note about the cancellation), in addition to the individual results tables in the drivers' articles.--Midgrid (talk) 17:33, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. The event has been removed from the calendar on the GP2 website. [2] - mspete93 20:27, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

To Davepusey - the "cancelled races" option in the legend was created specifically for the 2008–09 GP2 Asia Series season, when the second race of the second round was cancelled (due to bad weather), but the first was run as normal. As all the the races in Bahrain for this year were called off in advance of the events starting, I believe that it is appropriate to remove them entirely from the drivers' and teams' results tables.--Midgrid (talk) 19:28, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ok fair enough. I saw C = Cancelled in the legend so figured that was the correct thing to do. Sorry about that, will know for next time (which hopefully there won't be one) Davepusey (talk) 22:34, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Race description[edit]

Where is it? Who is leading the champion, how did they win races, any in race controversies, any hot shot driver fallen a foul of such a short calendar... --Falcadore (talk) 23:41, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Imola[edit]

Shouldn't the upcomming Imola round be listed as "San Marino" as per the F1 Grand Prixs held in the past? Davepusey (talk) 21:28, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, organizers of the series themselves determine the name of the round. [3]. So, in this season names should be Yas Marina and Imola. Cybervoron (talk) 21:35, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

San Marino Grand Prix is a tag the belong specifically to Formula One (and MotoGP who use the tag for the Misano circuit), not to any other motor racing category. The Imola circuit is in Italy, not San Marino. --Falcadore (talk) 09:55, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So how do you explain the SMR title here and here then? Davepusey (talk) 21:12, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's probably because they were supports for the San Marino Grand Prix. Not sure they're correct though. - mspete93 21:14, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Davepusey, look at Talk:2005 San Marino GP2 round. Cybervoron (talk) 22:05, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The result of that move attempt was no consensus, so it cannot be used as a reasoning for any kind of action.

I maintain then, as now, that the San Marino referencing referred specifically to the Formula One race only, indeed it has become policy after extensive debate on the subject not to use Formula One races names as any indication for support category races at F1 races to use country location rather than F1 name title. Indeed 2005 GP2 Series season supports this as Italian flags are used to indicate the Imola round, thus making the individual race report contradictory.

I would also suggest that GP2 race reports are poorly name. 2005 San Marino GP2 round, does not sufficiently describe the subject. At the very least GP2 Series round should be used.

Additionally, the only link provided as a defence against moving the San Marino round name to Imola is now a dead link, and the GP2 Series official site now uses Italian flags for the Imola circuit rather than San Marino flags, leaving the opposing users defence no longer valid. --Falcadore (talk) 22:58, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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