Talk:2014 Grozny clashes

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the 2014 Grozny clashes article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

A news item involving 2014 Grozny clashes was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 4 December 2014.

Wikipedia

Caucasia (inactive)

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Caucasia, a project which is currently considered to be inactive.CaucasiaWikipedia:WikiProject CaucasiaTemplate:WikiProject CaucasiaCaucasia articles

Islam: Islam and Controversy Low‑importance

	Islam portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Islam, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Islam-related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.IslamWikipedia:WikiProject IslamTemplate:WikiProject IslamIslam-related articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Islam and Controversy task force.

Military history: Russian & Soviet / Post-Cold War

This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history articles

This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
Referencing and citation: criterion not met Coverage and accuracy: criterion not met Structure: criterion met Grammar and style: criterion met Supporting materials: criterion met

Associated task forces:
/
	Russian, Soviet and CIS military history task force
	Post-Cold War task force

Russia Low‑importance

	Russia portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Russia, a WikiProject dedicated to coverage of Russia on Wikipedia. To participate: Feel free to edit the article attached to this page, join up at the project page, or contribute to the project discussion.RussiaWikipedia:WikiProject RussiaTemplate:WikiProject RussiaRussia articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Terrorism Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Terrorism, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of articles on terrorism, individual terrorists, incidents and related subjects on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.TerrorismWikipedia:WikiProject TerrorismTemplate:WikiProject TerrorismTerrorism articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Islamic State Involvement[edit]

Rumors are flying around the internet saying that this is linked to the Islamic State. Is there any evidence to support this? 160.109.104.125 (talk) 22:50, 4 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

None in any WP:RS I have seenm but a negative proves nothing. If you find a reliable source, report it. μηδείς (talk) 05:54, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ENGVAR[edit]

The article was originally composed in American English Diff and per policy, spellings should not be changed to reflect other varieties. μηδείς (talk) 02:33, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Background[edit]

It seems the author of this article's section has scant knowledge about the topic and obviously does not know how to write an article properly. Perhaps, s/he tried to expand the article with the best of intentions, but by any means, that is why this article's section is so abstract and loosely relevant: blah blah blah Chechen War blah blah blah Beslan blah blah blah Putin's Portrait. I suggest to rewrite this section and make it closer to the certain case, or at worst delete it. Anyway, according WP:OFFTOPIC I have to add at least an off-topic template. --85.140.239.182 (talk) 14:19, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead and fix "it", although you have said what "it" is, just made personal attacks. "Blah blah blah Putin's Potrait" is not something you should expect others to respond to as if it had some rational import. μηδείς (talk) 17:23, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Since that section is WP:OFFTOPIC, why not delete it? It makes to connection to the event whatsoever. We don't even know who exactly the perpetuators are. Khazar (talk) 04:26, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's nice improvement. Thank you. Khazar (talk) 04:15, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

death toll[edit]

The radio announced about an hour ago that Russian authorities have said that 16 policemen have now died but I can't find this in print anywhere. μηδείς (talk) 21:00, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Terrorists or insurgents?[edit]

We should take a common description for the perpetraters of this attack. Considering policemen where the target instead of civilians, I would say this is not terrorism, but insurgence. 83.163.231.32 (talk) 00:23, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed all references to "terrorists" to "militants" as it seems more appropriate here. The kyle 3 (talk) 03:49, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If a group of Jihadists attacked police station in New York, would you call them militants or terrorists? And would you call that a terrorist attack, or clashes? Be honest about it... One criterion should apply to all, including Russia. Is this "downplayed" terminology used BECAUSE it happened in Russia?McMixy (talk) 23:48, 19 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]