Talk:2017 Kurdistan Region independence referendum/Archive 1

Archive 1

Israel

I removed this:

> * Israel: Knesset member Ksenia Svetlova from the Zionist Union called upon the government to "support the Kurdish nation in its striving for independence and to recognize the results of the referendum".

She doesn't seem to have any role in government, just being random MP, so why is it listed as international reaction? Unless someone in Israeli government makes an official statement, it really shouldn't be here.

I think you should re-add it. No where does it say we should only add government reactions. --Ahmedo Semsurî (talk) 11:50, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

When we have added Ensarioğlu and Bahcelis statements, we should add Svetlova's as well. --Ahmedo Semsurî (talk) 11:59, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Requested move 15 January 2017

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The result of the move request was: Moved as nominated. The "future" version seems to have two supports, with one each for "next" and "post-2005".  — Amakuru (talk) 14:16, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

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Iraqi Kurdistan independence referendum → Future Iraqi Kurdistan independence referendum – As evidenced by the recent attempt to move this page, this title is clearly in dispute. Although it is likely that this referendum will be held in 2017 we can't say that for a certainty. So I would recommend we move it to Future Iraqi Kurdistan independence referendum or Next Iraqi Kurdistan independence referendum because we also need to differentiate this from the 2005 referendum. Charles Essie (talk) 17:04, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

• Agree with proposed move They would have to be oved again when it does happen; perhaps until then, Post-2005 Iraqi Kurdistan independence referendum or something like that? But I don't insist on the distinction. It's likely to be controversial in any case. O Fortuna!^{...Imperatrix mundi.} 17:19, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
• Next Iraqi Kurdistan independence referendum sounds best, until a reliable source names a date. Earthscent (talk) 17:31, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
• Agree with the proposed move. "Future" is good; "next" could be okay too. The point is that this article isn't about the 2005 referendum, or about the idea of such referenda in general. Q·L·1968 ☿ 00:54, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

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Prologue

Shouldn't this page get renamed and/or deleted? I ask because it still refers to the referendum as happening in 2014 and as of posting this,it is April of 2015. 66.66.141.67 (talk) 22:55, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Barzani recently made another call for a referendum. If anything this article should be kept and updated. Charles Essie (talk) 18:46, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Is Kurdish Syria a part of this?

Question- aren't there some parts of Syria that are under Kurdish control, and how likely is it that those would be included in a proposed Kurdish state? I do realize that a large chunk of Turkey and a smaller chunk of Iran are under semi-autonomous Kurdish control, but I'm more certain that those regions have no chance of being part of a greater Kurdish state in the near future. Parts of norther Syria, on the other hand, just might. I'm actually not sure about that though, and some clarification on that point would be appreciated, even if it's just here in the Talk section. 68.226.78.70 (talk) 18:52, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Nope, Syrian Kurdistan would not be part of this. They're under the control of different Kurdish authorities (between whom there have been serious tensions concerning Shingal and the Rojava Peshmerga, among other issues). Q·L·1968 ☿ 19:47, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

How does this relate to our article Ezidkhan?

Ezidkhan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been more or less completely rewritten recently. Doug Weller talk 11:34, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

binding?

In what sense is the result binding? Does it bind the KRG only or also the Iraqi government? It is not explained in the article. Kaihsu (talk) 19:57, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

I was looking for info on that, having not seen the statement in the lead. I suspect that it means the KRG will declare independence. They already have substantial autonomy and could trash the Iraqi army, so the only threat is probably Turkey invading. The question then becomes international recognition and UN membership. It will probably end up in a situation similar to Kosovo, albeit better, because some countries opposed to Kosovo (which was ripped from Serbia by NATO) are ok with Kurdistan (which has been looking for independence since the 20s). Back to the main point, I think its binding on the KRG, which would then declare independence. This should be clarified of course. Metallurgist (talk) 20:27, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

First of all Erdogan has stated that Turkey won't invade Kurdistan Region. Second of all, by stating that the referendum is "biding", Kurdish officials mean that it will bind the Kurdistan government to negotiate independence. --Ahmedo Semsurî (talk) 11:21, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Turkey wouldn't dare to "invade" Kurdistan because Israel supports the referendum, and they offered protection to the Kurd. However they did close borders, along with Iran.--◂ ‎épine _talk♬ 13:14, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

STV?

How can the voting system be STV when it is a yes/no referendum? Kaihsu (talk) 19:53, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

I have the same question. I am going to remove that. 67.245.215.201 (talk) 23:53, 22 September 2017 (UTC)