Talk:2023 English Open (snooker)

Wikilinking names

@AlH42 The standard style across tournament articles is to give a player's full wiki-linked name only on the first use in the article body, but their surname only thereafter, not wiki-linked. So it's Mark Selby on the first use, but Selby thereafter. If using only a player's last name would create ambiguity, as in the case of Neil Robertson and Jimmy Robertson, then it's Neil Robertson on the first use but Neil Robertson thereafter. Can you please stop wiki-linking players' full names unnecessarily throughout the body? It is time-consuming restoring these to the standard style. Thank you! HurricaneHiggins (talk) 10:09, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Understood. I only put these wikilinks in where it was the first mention in a particular section. I didn't realise that the "standard style" covers the whole article. If that is the case, why do we wikilink every name in the brackets, and in the quali matches, and in the century breaks - if they've been mentioned before?  Alan  (talk) 10:19, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

I'm not sure about the reasons for wikilinking every name in the brackets ... but this is the way it's always been done. Trying to change it now would only create incompatibility with a huge number of previous articles. HurricaneHiggins (talk) 10:30, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Valid point.  Alan  (talk) 10:32, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

See MOS:REPEATLINK: "Generally, a link should appear only once in an article, but it may be repeated if helpful for readers, such as in infoboxes, tables, image captions, footnotes, hatnotes, and at the first occurrence in a section." So it "may be repeated" ... "at the first occurrence in a section." I think a "section" here is as described at WP:SECTION, ie something with "==" in the heading. Three or more =s seem to be called sub-sections. In biographies we generally use just the surname after the first mention, but I'm not 100% sure of the advice in non-bio articles like this. Nigej (talk) 10:32, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks @Nigej. In the case of these tournament articles, the section in question with the "==" header is the Summary, which implies that a player should be wikilinked on their first mention in the tournament summary, but not again in the summary section. That's what we typically do anyway. HurricaneHiggins (talk) 10:43, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

MOS:BIO has some advice. It says that "While this guideline focuses on biographies, its advice pertains, where applicable, to all articles that mention people." In that guideline, MOS:SURNAME says that "After the initial mention, a person should generally be referred to by surname only" Although MOS:SAMESURNAME says (in relation to people with the same surname) that "In an article that is not about either unrelated person with the same surname, continue to refer to them both by their full names." Personally I think it might well be useful (in a non-bio article like this) to give the full name when the previous reference to it is in an earlier section (which seems to me to be consistent with the advice at MOS:REPEATLINK). For biographical articles about say Mark Selby we should however continue to use Selby to refer to him after the first mention (in the lede). Nigej (talk) 11:48, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks @Nigej. I appreciate the advice above. I think what is outlined is consistent with how every other tournament article is written. I don't see a need to hyperlink players' full names in every subsection (usually for each round) because that gets excessive very quickly and contributes to overlinking. HurricaneHiggins (talk) 12:30, 5 October 2023 (UTC)