Talk:2024 Mexican general election

with the remaining 200 [deputies] elected in a single nationwide constituency

That's what the source says. But that contradicts Electoral regions of Mexico ("Mexico is split into 5 separate regions. Each of the five regions sends 40 deputies..."). Is the source wrong, or is this a change for the 2024 election? Moscow Mule (talk) 23:59, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

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Candidates included in the infobox

It is the norm in Wikipedia for infoboxed to only include candidates polling over 5%. Wikipedia:Five percent rule Smartypants2006 (talk) 16:50, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Gabriel Quadri de la Torre isn’t included in the 2012 election infobox.

Smartypants2006 (talk) 16:51, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

AFAIK, the polling rule is only applicable to American elections. The 5% rule only applies elsewhere for the actual results. Cheers, Number 57 20:17, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

I'm with Number 57. The term "polling" is ambiguous, but I read most of those references to actual counted votes the day after the election, not pre-election day voting intention polls. And WP:5%R is all very heavily tilted towards U.S. elections, with references to "third-party candidates" upsetting the duopoly, when this election, like so many others in Latin America, will be lucky to keep it down to four.

This is all about Verástegui, of course. If he gets the signatures, he'll be in the debates alongside the others, just like Zavala and Bronco were last time. I think WP:NPOV requires that he be included in the infobox, at least at this stage in the process. Moscow Mule (talk) 23:02, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

But after learning that he's only one of 27, I'm not so sure. Maybe it'd be better to wait until he, or any of the other 26 (!), receives the Constancia de Registro como Candidata o Candidato Independiente from the INE. Moscow Mule (talk) 00:31, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

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Xóchitl Gálvez's party

I'm asking this here because this page gets more traffic, and because the answer will affects this one too.

So: what's the deal with Xóchitl Gálvez's party affiliation? Her page says she switched to the PRD (in order to give it enough seats to warrant inclusion on a committee) in 2021… but her page on the Spanish Wikipedia lists her as independent, while also saying that she didn't actually switch to the PRD, since Morena bowed to pressure and gave the party the representation anyway. Confusingly, this doesn't appear to be backed up by the citation, though I did find an article (1) that says she didn't go through with the floor-crossing (though no reason is given?). The senate website lists Galvez as PAN (2), though it's not clear if she was always PAN or if she changed back.

I can't read Spanish, and have been relying on machine translation, so finding clarification on this is difficult. — Kawnhr (talk) 00:03, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

The current English article on Xóchitl Gálvez's party affiliation is incorrect. Throughout her career, she has never been a registered member of any political party, though she has caucused with the National Action Party (PAN) in the Senate. When she was elected mayor of Miguel Hidalgo in 2015 and subsequently senator in 2018, she ran as a representative of the PAN for mayor and a representative of the "Por México al Frente" alliance for senator, with her name appearing on the ballot next to the party logos.

In 2021, because the PRD did not have enough members to gain representation on the Senate Permanent Committee, she planned on caucusing with the PRD, instead of the PAN, so that Morena wouldn't have a supermajority. Ultimately, the decision was made to allow the PRD to have a place on the committee, negating the need for Gálvez to switch which party she would caucus with. At no point did she plan on registering as a member of any of these parties, which I believe is where all this confusion stems from. The Senate website lists her as a member of the PAN's caucus, which she had been a member of since 2018.

Last week, she had to ask the Senate for permission to resign from her position as Senator in order to run for president next year. This is something all incumbents in Mexico must do due to the conflict of interest that would arise if they remained in office. Claudia Sheinbaum also resigned as Head of Government of Mexico City last June, as did Samuel García as Governor of Nuevo León last week.

A debate is also currently taking place in the talk section of the Spanish version of the article on the 2024 election. The current suggestion is that Gálvez be referred to as an external candidate in the infobox, rather than an independent, though a final decision has not yet been made. I believe the best course of action would be to wait for a consensus to be reached in the Spanish article, since it is the most spoken language in Mexico, and to follow that same decision in the English article.

To clarify, I am Mexican and can speak both Spanish and English fluently, without having to rely on machine translations. Asuka Langley Shikinami (talk) 01:51, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

@Asuka Langley Shikinami: Thanks for the explanation! I see you've fixed Galvez's page too, which is appreciated. — Kawnhr (talk) 18:23, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

This question has cropped up again over the past few weeks. The edit summaries refer to the coalition document, which is here. Page 23 states: Para la elección de la candidatura a la Presidencia de la República, las partes acuerdan que el origen partidario de la candidatura será el Partido Acción Nacional. She might be the PAN's external candidate (similar to Meade running for the PRI last time) but she's not an independent (as Rodríguez Calderón was in 2018). Moscow Mule (talk) 20:54, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

This makes sense to me, so I just reverted an edit that listed Galvez as independent again. But since this is a regular point of contention, it would be a good idea to spell this out in the body. Is there any non-primary source we can use that says Galvez is running on the PAN line? — Kawnhr (talk) 17:37, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

I've found a variety of sources that state that she is running as the PAN's candidate (at the time, that she registered as a precandidate for the PAN), with the sources quoting her in a speech. [1] The source is in Spanish, but she is quoted saying, “Me siento honrada y contenta de ser la precandidata del PAN.” (“I feel honored and happy to be the precandidate for the PAN.”). Also clarifying that I am fluent in both English and Spanish. EchoLuminary (talk) 15:08, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

This is good. Thanks! — Kawnhr (talk) 21:55, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Will just leave this here for reference, the strongest piece of evidence is that Galvez used the PAN's backing to obtain the nomination, with the PAN considering her as one of their own candidates during the internal selection process. This means, drawing from the conclusion from the Spanish talk page, that Galvez is the PAN's external candidate (the PAN backed her even though she is not part of the party). The coalition document does state that the presidential nominee must originate from the PAN, which Galvez as an external candidate still satisfies, as she was sponsered by the PAN to be there.

For now, I added a note to the infobox that uses this logic to justify the PAN label. EchoLuminary (talk) 00:27, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

The coalition document does state that the presidential nominee must originate from the PAN. Just curious: does that mean that if the coalition had nominated a PRI candidate, that candidate would still have been registered with the INE under the PAN line? — Kawnhr (talk) 00:55, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Looked into when it was written: the coalition agreement was registered in November 2023, meaning that it was written after Gálvez became the nominee (by 31 August, she was the nominee). The specification that the nominee is of PAN origin seems to have been written with Galvez in mind, which confirms that the parties view her as a PAN candidate, even if she considers herself non-affiliated. The line would have probably changed if it was a PRI or PRD member. EchoLuminary (talk) 02:18, 1 March 2024 (UTC)