Talk:2024 United Kingdom local elections

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David Sidwick[edit]

Why is David Sidwick, Dorset PCC, listed as an independent? His own website describes him as Conservative? 2A00:23C5:BA8A:BF01:3539:A3D0:E8C7:A6A5 (talk) 21:54, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Humour[edit]

What is the deference between a pin's head and the odds of at Conservative victory. The pin's head is much bigger. 194.120.133.6 (talk) 04:42, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

English local elections[edit]

Is there a reason for this article being called "2024 United Kingdom local elections" instead of "2024 English local elections", there are only 'local' elections in England not accross the whole of the UK LandmarkFilly54 (talk) 12:25, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are PCC elections in Wales, and the YYYY United Kingdom local elections article series is a well-established framework for local elections occurring in whichever parts of the UK are holding them in that year. Ralbegen (talk) 14:02, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is the England Local Elections & Welsh PCC Election. There is no election Scotland, Northern Ireland or the Dependencies. It is NOT a UK el 51.148.163.247 (talk) 17:43, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Local By Elections[edit]

Someone started a section for local by elections being held on the same day in councils not up this year and it was deleted. What is wrong with including this section?

Council by-elections take place throughout the year. There is nothing different about ones which coincide with the topic of the article, which are scheduled local elections. If we were going to include council by-elections on this page it would not make sense to limit them to those on the same day as other local elections. (We shouldn't include them here—they make more sense in individual council election articles). Ralbegen (talk) 17:03, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @RandomAmber:, @Realnoahsimpson:, @Alextheconservative: These council by-elections are being held on the same day so I thought they should be mentioned. Moondragon21 (talk) 18:22, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I agreed they should be mentioned. Perhaps a new rule can be set it only applies to ones where the council is not up. the same for the general election later this year. Bentley4 (talk) 00:04, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Bentley4: That is a good idea. Should I re-add them? Moondragon21 (talk) 21:50, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think there should be more of a consensus first but i'm not opposed to it being re-added. Bentley4 (talk) 15:23, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They happen to be on the same day, but that that's just trivia, really. In years, like the last two, when there are scheduled local elections on multiple days, should we include council by-elections on both? The article series covers all scheduled local elections in the year. If we wanted to include council by-elections in the article we should include all council by-elections, not just those on the same day. But we shouldn't—there are better places to include that material! Ralbegen (talk) 17:25, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What about by elections in councils that don’t have scheduled elections this year? Could we include those? Bentley4 (talk) 20:32, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bentley4: As the election day has passed I have added the council by-elections to 2024 United Kingdom electoral calendar. Moondragon21 (talk) 09:46, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Single-authority mayors[edit]

I feel like "Single-authority mayors" as a title for the mayoral election in Salford might cause confusion; it's certainly causing me confusion. "Single-authority" from someone not from this country would seem to imply a unitary authority. Is there another way to phrase this to avoid misidentification? I don't see "single-authority" used anyone else. Is there another collective term for the different types of local districts? Lower tier or local authority, maybe? There is nothing special about Salford's categorization as it relates to local governance. Criticalthinker (talk) 11:41, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think the term "single-authority" is to contrast them with combined authority mayors; before 2017 there was no need to disambiguate "mayor" as only London had a mayor that covered multiple local authorities. (FWIW, Salford is a unitary authority, in that all metropolitan boroughs are unitaries but that's not necessarily the case across other mayoralties in England). I suppose "principal council mayor" is an alternative term we could use? Either way, the Suffolk and Norfolk devolutions deals will throw a (small) spanner in the works, in that those county councils (who area also considered principal councils, and single authorities in their own rights) will both be getting mayors but not actually calling them mayors, instead calling them "directly-elected leaders".  M2Ys4U (talk) 14:15, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's the thing, though. Salford is not a unitary authority. All of the districts in the ceremonial county of Greater Manchester are Metropolitan boroughs; there is nothing special about its local government status even within its (ceremonial) county. Again, I just think "single-authority" introduces confusion Criticalthinker (talk) 08:06, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, yes, you're right that technically the metropolitan boroughs are not true unitaries, but when the metropolitan county councils were abolished in '85 they became de facto unitaries. Local government in England is a mess 🙃; "single-authority" might be the least-worst option, even if it isn't a good one. Perhaps it's worth raising with the Politics of the United Kingdom WikiProject to get some wider input?  M2Ys4U (talk) 16:56, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, if it's confusing for readers then it's because the English/UK's local election system is non-uniform and complex. Single-authority is the best way to describe these mayors. There isn't an official term for them, but they are essentially directly-elected council leaders. Arguably, a "local authority mayor" works, but i'm happy with the original statement. Jonjonjohny (talk) 22:17, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Turnout[edit]

How many electors elegible to vote and what % actually did? Is the system rotten? Dajanes (talk) 23:39, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Projected national vote share[edit]

projected national vote share percentages from the BBC are so consistently ridiculous that I don't know why you feature them. Lot's of people look at these pages and think these indicate what would happen at the next general election.2A02:C7C:8A4A:BF00:EC2E:DC40:6EDF:D088 (talk) 15:44, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They're not ridiculous in and of themselves, they are an estimation of how the whole country would have voted if the whole country had local elections. We should do more to contextualise them, though, so people don't confuse them with an estimated general election outcome.  M2Ys4U (talk) 18:15, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's possibly worth including them, but we really ought to indicate right there in the infobox that this is a projected percentage, and have this language consistently used across all our local elections articles. Also, it's worth noting that this is the BBC's projection but there is no obvious reason to include this but not the one produced by Thrasher. FOARP (talk) 20:46, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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