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On 10 February 2013, it was proposed that this article be moved to A-350 (missile). The result of the discussion was no consensus.

Galosh as ICBM[edit]

Galosh is also the NATO code name for an ICBM system deployed by Soviet Union. Someone should add an article and a disambiguate note to this article. See National Missile Defense#The Sentinel Program. --Andrea 13:51, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Split the contradiction info to separate talks[edit]

Will copy (not moved) the appropriate talk template and comments to Galoshes and ABM-1 Galosh. LanceBarber (talk) 20:28, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Missile info copied and saved.LanceBarber (talk) 21:09, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Galosh vs Galoch[edit]

One occurrence of Galoch exists in FAS.ORG site, and internet searches finds only last names Galoch. NATO code names are U.S.-English words of objects, animals, creatures, etc. A Galosh is a overshoe (or galoshes). The other ABM missiles are Gazelle (animal) and Gorgon(mythical creature). Numerous web searches find Galosh with ABM missile.LanceBarber (talk) 08:56, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is confused. It mixes up A-35M stuff with the locations of early warning radars. Much of this belongs in A-35 anti-ballistic missile system. Secretlondon (talk) 23:10, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

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The result of the proposal was no consensus. --BDD (talk) 23:15, 6 March 2013 (UTC) (non-admin closure)[reply]

ABM-1 Galosh → A-350 (missile) – It is the standard procedure not to have pages on Soviet/Russian weapons at their NATO codenames, but rather at their Soviet/Russian designations. Therefore A-350 (missile) is the correct page to have this article at; I would uncontroversially move it, except later, upgraded missiles were designated "A-35M", and I'm not sure if the most-common type name or a "family" name is preferable. Relisted. BDD (talk) 17:53, 27 February 2013 (UTC) The Bushranger _{One ping only} 13:22, 10 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How do you propose to handle 53T6 (NATO reporting name: ABM-3 Gazelle, previously SH-08)?? LanceBarber (talk) 01:23, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- For the moment, 53T6 with ABM-3 Gazelle and SH-08 redirecting there is just fine - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 05:55, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment wouldn't most Cold War systems have their English common name be the NATO reporting name? -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 01:26, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Not really. This is a case where having the article at the actual designation with the NATO reporting name redirecting there is the standard. Same for Japanese aircraft of WWII; D4Y Judy redirects to Yokosuka D4Y. (And I think we can all agree that Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15 Fagot would be...unfortunate.) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 05:55, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The new name is thoroughly unnatural; no source calls it "A-350 (missile)" and no reader is likely to type that string into the search box. bobrayner (talk) 19:38, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Calling it "ABM-1 Galosh" is systemic bias. Also, typing it into the search box would still find the page via a redirect. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:57, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. As the A-350 is the nuke version, the V-1000 is the conventional version. Should the V-1000 version be discussed in this article or create a separate article?LanceBarber (talk) 05:28, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Projected U.S. ABM suppression strike[edit]

The source given for the table 'Projected U.S. ABM suppression strike' is incorrect. The table is taken from File:Projected U.S. ABM suppression strike, 1968.png. The text in the image specifically references History of U.S. Strategic Air Command January for the claim "Based on 100+ Minuteman I/II missiles, plus Polaris missiles, designated for 1968 Soviet ABM suppression". It goes on to state "The assignment of individual weapons to individual targets is not known. We assume each launch complex was targeted by eight Minuteman missiles, each carrying one W56 warhead". (Emphasis mine) The assignment of individual weapons to individual targets is not known. In other words, all the quantitative information in this table is made up. All we can say from the supplied source is that upwards of 100 Minuteman I/II missiles plus Polaris missiles were designated for ABM suppression. The rest is not sourced. I will remove this table. - Crosbie 13:19, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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