Talk:A Beautiful Lie

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Genre Change 2020[edit]

I'm seeking consensus to change the add emo and post-hardcore to genres. TerminatorZXY (talk) 17:17, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TerminatorZXY, before adding any genre you need to discuss with other users and find WP:CONSENSUS. As I already explained to you, both genres you added result to be unsourced, since the reviews you cite do not describe the album as an emo or post-hardcore record. Also, the Sputnikmusic link you added cannot be used since it's a user review, not a professional one. Sources on Wikipedia have to be WP:VERIFIABLE and WP:RELIABLE. Please check WP:ALBUM/REVSIT to have a list of reliable sources. Past discussions have shown there are plenty of genres used by critics for the band and their records, so users found that alternative rock was the musical genre that could best describe the style and tendency of the album. You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you change genres in pages without consensus.--Earthh (talk) 11:58, 11 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

R-Evolve[edit]

This is just a random thought, but does the beginning of R-Evolve sound a bit like Adam's Song by Blink-182?

Longest video?[edit]

From Yesterday is the longest video ever made? I thought that was Thriller. If it is, where's the sourcing? Titan50 (talk) 16:03, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Supposed subliminal messages[edit]

One of the pieces of trivia states that the "The Kill" video contains subliminal messages. While I don't wholly agree with that statement, I believe that is a true enough statement. I myself don't think they are subliminal. But that's not what I wanted to mention. When I read the bit about subliminal messages I looked in the video I found (ripped from Rage TV) and found the flashed frames were at something more like 3:09, 3:11, and 4:11. I'm not sure that those times have to be used, but maybe a more general description is in order. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.32.46.190 (talk) 17:57, 6 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

"Praying for a Riot" bonus track[edit]

The "hidden track" on A Beautiful Lie has no official title. Neither Jared Leto, nor any other member of 30 Seconds to Mars have made any such claims, publication or statement in regards to a title for the hidden track on 'A Beautiful Lie'.

The incorrect title "Praying for a Riot" actually stems from the official 30 Seconds to Mars fan forums, a place which is notorious for it's misinformation regarding the band and it's music. During a fan discussion on what THEY (the fans) call the hidden track, one fan created the title "7 Corners". Another fan reportedly claims that Jared had told them it's called "Praying for a Riot" - the title which has now been adopted by the fan-base and accordingly spread across the Internet. Some online stores have actually adopted this track title and included it in their tracklistings - presumably taking the information from Wikipedia in doing so. This does NOT make the title official - it just proves that it's easy to spread misinformation across the Internet.

Bottom line; you will find no such title printed anywhere on the CD's, on any official 30 Seconds to Mars merchandise or media, nor in any official interviews with the band. Because Wikipedia only lists factual information that can be supported, this title should not be listed on the 'A Beautiful Lie' page. VincePirez (talk) 12:11, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unspecified source for Image:30 Seconds to Mars - A Beautiful Lie.jpg[edit]

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Album assessment[edit]

Obviously, a lot of attention has gone into this article. :) In order to be properly assessed by the WP:ALBUM criteria, information on which specific band members performed on this album needs to be included in personnel. This is essential in bands with shifting line-ups, as the infobox indicates this one to have. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:10, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Emo?!?[edit]

What is emo doing in this album's genre?!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.253.169.203 (talk) 21:49, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The genre is sourced and confirmed. -- GunMetal Angel 21:45, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Can you give me the link to your source please? 97.65.61.9 (talk) 04:41, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from 30STM, 6 July 2011[edit]

There is an error in the genres of this album, how do I change it?

30STM (talk) 14:39, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 15:18, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

EMO?[edit]

Emo? Screamo is acceptable but emo no. I erase the "emo" genre but I erase also "do not put another genre your changes will be revisted" so can someone put that again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CBaila (talk • contribs) 14:26, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Genre[edit]

I think we should add post-hardcore to the genre because alot of the singles from this album depict that genre. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PugsNotDrugsHD333 (talk • contribs) 18:56, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I agree TerminatorZXY (talk) 00:27, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:A Beautiful Lie/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Article requirements:

Green tickY All the start class criteria
Green tickY A completed infobox, including cover art and most technical details
Green tickY At least one section of prose (excluding the lead section)
Red XN A track listing containing track lengths and authors for all songs
Green tickY A full list of personnel, including technical personnel and guest musicians
Green tickY Categorisation at least by artist and year
Green tickY A casual reader should learn something about the album.

Andrzejbanas (talk) 03:38, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 03:38, 11 May 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 06:15, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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