Talk:Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress/Archive 1

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Protected

Page protected as per Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. Should definitely be unprotected before the ceremony on Feb 27, but according to the request, a few days should suffice. Please request unprotection at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection in a (very) few days. -- Chris 73 Talk 07:22, Feb 4, 2005 (UTC)

Take Off The Flags

I suggest we take off the flags. It makes the whole article messy and confusing with the colorful flags all over the place. The flags overshadows the names of the nominees and winners, in my opinion. Besides this is the Oscar not the Olympics.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.3.232.79 (talk) 04:40, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree - they are distracting and irrelevant. Please remove if a consensus is reached once this is unprotected. — mrmaroon25 (talk contribs) 03:44, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Article Stripped Bare

Someone has single-handedly decided to delete a great deal of important information (to say nothing of contributors' hard work) from this article. What can be done? (JosephASpadaro 05:34, 10 March 2007 (UTC))

Nationalities of winners table

I have some concerns about the "Nationalities of winners" table that was recently added to this article along with the Best Actress, Best Actor, and Best Supporting Actor articles – many of them regard issues similar to what are raised WP:MOSFLAG.

What is the primary reason and basis to determine nationality or citizenship of the winners? Is it the nationality or citizenship of each actors' birth? Is it the nationality or citizenship when their specified film was released? Or is it their nationality or citizenship today?

There are many actors and actress like Oscar winners Anthony Hopkins, John Houseman, Elizabeth Taylor, and Charlize Theron who have changed their citizenship during their career. So unless there is some sort of standard, I am afraid I will have to remove the table. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 06:31, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

What is it that you are ultimately looking to achieve ... removing the tables ... or establishing a standard? Those are two very different objectives. If it is the latter, I am sure that some standard can be derived through consensus. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 06:52, 25 November 2007 (UTC))
Please centralize discussion at Talk:Academy_Award_for_Best_Actor#Nationalities_of_winners_table to avoid repitition. (Per Cop 663 talk 13:56, 25 November 2007 (UTC)) (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 18:19, 25 November 2007 (UTC))

Kate Winslet

I added Kate Winslet to the table a few days ago under 'Most nominations (without ever winning) - Overall' along with Deborah Kerr and Thelma Ritter, as she now also has 6 nominations. However, this has now been removed (by an unregistered user) - can whoever reverted this explain their reasoning? As far as I can see, this box in the table encompasses both Leading and Supporting nominations, and therefore Winslet ties with Ritter and Kerr. I'll check back in a day or two and add it again unless a reason is given. Brianwilsonisgod (talk) 05:44, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, a couple things. I can't see where you've ever edited this article. Perhaps you meant this note to go on Academy Award for Best Actress? Meanwhile, I wouldn't put that in a table as a fact until the actual awards are given this year and she hasn't won. Otherwise, it's a bit of jumping the gun that will have to be changed if she wins. Wildhartlivie (talk) 06:36, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, you're right sorry - I did edit it on the Best Actress page - but the table here shows the same statistics so the point stands. I don't understand the argument of waiting until the end of February in case we need to change it back. It's true now, and should say so - if it changes at the next Oscars ceremony, then the article should be changed again accordingly... Brianwilsonisgod (talk) 01:43, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Curse?

Should there be any mention of the Best Supporting Actress curse which has befallen many actresses who have won the award? Loser user —Preceding undated comment added 18:13, 22 February 2010 (UTC).

And what "curse' is that? Wildhartlivie (talk) 20:08, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
The "curse" in which a number of actresses have seen their careers fade away or have little success after winning the award. I know of several articles which discuss the "curse" of winning Best Supporting Actress. Loser user (talk) 22:32, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
And what articles would that be? Wildhartlivie (talk) 05:40, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Here's one I've found dated last year. I take the notion of a "curse" with a grain of salt. http://www.cbc.ca/arts/film/story/2009/02/17/f-2009-oscars-best-supporting-actress-curse.htmlCrboyer (talk) 04:41, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Academy Award winning performances of non-fictional characters

Another editor brought to my attention the following list of (acting) Academy Award winning performances of non-fictional characters. I will leave it to others to ascertain whether or not this information belongs in the main article. I am posting it on the Talk Pages of the four acting Academy Awards in the event that someone wants to add in the information, as appropriate. I am also posting it for general information, in the event that a reader would like to know these facts. Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 20:38, 2 April 2011 (UTC))

Multiple nominations table

I again undid the reversion by Musdan77 re-adding the table. The table uses inconsistent formatting, centering the sole person receiving four nominations and then left-aligning the lists of those receiving three and two nominations. Additionally, the headers are center aligned, while the bulk of the table is left aligned. Also, the tables have been removed from the other similar articles (Best Supporting Actor, Best Actor, & Best Actress), and prior to the removal of the other tables, none of them were consistently formatted. AldezD (talk) 18:07, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Yes, once again you have violated WP:BRD by reverting back before consensus is found. For the record, I think the table gives it a much cleaner, more helpful appearance. --Musdan77 (talk) 18:25, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

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Character or Role?

@Crisco 1492, Giants2008, The Rambling Man, SchroCat, PresN, Cowlibob, SNUGGUMS, and FrB.TG:: Which is more appropriate for the acting Oscar awards tables? Character(s) or Role(s)? I really do not mind either one, but I do believe in consistency for the featured lists.

--Birdienest81 (talk) 17:03, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
  • How are they described by the Academy? Go with their description if there is something consistent to use there. - SchroCat (talk) 17:10, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
  • The only thing I'll add is that I personally use role, which is what an actor takes on. Tim riley and Ssilvers, what think you? – SchroCat (talk) 18:14, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
The two words are exactly synonymous when applied to a particular part in a movie. If the Academy doesn't choose one of these terms to prefer (and if the Film project has not discussed the issue already), then I would choose the shorter word, "Role". -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:39, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
The Academy doesn't use a specific term when searching in the acting nominations on their site. Character is the best choice. When an actor performs a role in any medium they are creating a character. Character is used in all other lists of the same medium Screen Actors Guild Award for Outstanding Performance by a Female Actor in a Leading Role, Golden Globe Award for Best Actress in a Motion Picture – Comedy or Musical, etc. HesioneHushabye (talk) 17:26, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
I don't really have a preference. Snuggums (talk / edits) 17:34, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

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Splitting table by decade

Left a note at User talk:Michael 182 about his changes to the 4 related AA acting articles. Do any other editors/readers care about keeping the list as one continuous sortable table, or do you prefer a split by decade, and if so, why? Thanks. Brian W. Schaller (talk) 00:50, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

No comments in a week, so nobody seems to care. Leaving it split is ok with this editor, though now someone's deleting wikilinks for no apparent reason. Guess the split table makes it easier to vandalize. Isn't anyone else watching this 'featured' list? Brian W. Schaller (talk) 22:12, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Move most of the images to a Wikimedia gallery?

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Awards by Genre

Backup data for Number of awards by genre of the film

Awards by Genre
Actor Role Film Genre
Lupita Nyong'o Patsey 12 Years a Slave Biography
Jennifer Connelly Alicia Nash A Beautiful Mind Biography
Estelle Parsons Blanche Barrow Bonnie and Clyde Biography
Allison Janney LaVona Golden I, Tonya Biography
Brenda Fricker Bridget Fagan-Brown My Left Foot Biography
Marcia Gay Harden Lee Krasner Pollock Biography
Cate Blanchett Katharine Hepburn The Aviator Biography
Alicia Vikander Gerda Wegener The Danish Girl Biography
Shelley Winters Petronella van Daan The Diary of Anne Frank Biography
Dianne Wiest Helen Sinclair Bullets over Broadway Comedy
Goldie Hawn Toni Simmons Cactus Flower Comedy
Maggie Smith Diana Barrie California Suite Comedy
Josephine Hull Veta Louise Simmons Harvey Comedy
Mira Sorvino Linda Ash Mighty Aphrodite Comedy
Marisa Tomei Mona Lisa Vito My Cousin Vinny Comedy
Anjelica Huston Maerose Prizzi Prizzi's Honor Comedy
Jessica Lange Julie Nichols Tootsie Comedy
Eileen Heckart Mrs. Baker Butterflies Are Free Comedy-Drama
Dianne Wiest Holly Hannah and Her Sisters Comedy-Drama
Mary Steenburgen Lynda West-Dummar Melvin and Howard Comedy-Drama
Beatrice Straight Louise Schumacher Network Comedy-Drama
Tatum O'Neal Addie Loggins Paper Moon Comedy-Drama
Judi Dench Queen Elizabeth I Shakespeare in Love Comedy-Drama
Lee Grant Felicia Karpf Shampoo Comedy-Drama
Mercedes Ruehl Anne Napolitano The Fisher King Comedy-Drama
Octavia Spencer Minny Jackson The Help Comedy-Drama
Penélope Cruz María Elena Vicky Cristina Barcelona Comedy-Drama
Helen Hayes Ada Quonsett Airport Disaster
Alice Brady Molly O'Leary In Old Chicago Disaster
Shelley Winters Rose-ann D'Arcey A Patch of Blue Drama
Kim Hunter Stella Kowalski A Streetcar Named Desire Drama
Mercedes McCambridge Sadie Burke All the King's Men Drama
Gale Sondergaard Faith Paleologus Anthony Adverse Drama
Patricia Arquette Olivia Evans Boyhood Drama
Jo Van Fleet Cathy Ames / Kate Trask East of Eden Drama
Shirley Jones Lulu Baines Elmer Gantry Drama
Viola Davis Rose Lee Maxson Fences Drama
Celeste Holm Anne Dettrey Gentleman's Agreement Drama
Whoopi Goldberg Oda Mae Brown Ghost Drama
Angelina Jolie Lisa Rowe Girl, Interrupted Drama
Regina King Sharon Rivers If Beale Street Could Talk Drama
Fay Bainter Belle Massey Jezebel Drama
Vanessa Redgrave Julia Julia Drama
Meryl Streep Joanna Kramer Kramer vs. Kramer Drama
Laura Dern Nora Fanshaw Marriage Story Drama
Youn Yuh-jung Soon-ja Minari Drama
Teresa Wright Carol Beldon Mrs. Miniver Drama
Ethel Barrymore Ma Mott None but the Lonely Heart Drama
Eva Marie Saint Edie Doyle On the Waterfront Drama
Mo'Nique Mary Lee Johnston Precious Drama
Miyoshi Umeki Katsumi Kelly Sayonara Drama
Wendy Hiller Pat Cooper Separate Tables Drama
Geena Davis Muriel Pritchett The Accidental Tourist Drama
Gloria Grahame Rosemary Bartlow The Bad and the Beautiful Drama
Rachel Weisz Tessa Quayle The Constant Gardener Drama
Juliette Binoche Hana The English Patient Drama
Jane Darwell Ma Joad The Grapes of Wrath Drama
Mary Astor Sandra Kovak The Great Lie Drama
Cloris Leachman Ruth Popper The Last Picture Show Drama
Patty Duke Helen Keller The Miracle Worker Drama
Anna Paquin Flora McGrath The Piano Drama
Anne Baxter Sophie Nelson-MacDonald The Razor's Edge Drama
Margaret Rutherford The Duchess of Brighton The V.I.P.s Drama
Linda Hunt Billy Kwan The Year of Living Dangerously Drama
Sandy Dennis Honey Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? Drama
Dorothy Malone Marylee Hadley Written on the Wind Drama
Lila Kedrova Madame Hortense Zorba the Greek Drama
Peggy Ashcroft Mrs. Moore A Passage to India Epic
Renée Zellweger Ruby Thewes Cold Mountain Epic
Katina Paxinou Pilar For Whom the Bell Tolls Epic
Hattie McDaniel Mammy Gone with the Wind Epic
Maureen Stapleton Emma Goldman Reds Epic
Ruth Gordon Minnie Castevet Rosemary's Baby Horror
Catherine Zeta-Jones Velma Kelly Chicago Musical
Jennifer Hudson Effie White Dreamgirls Musical
Anne Hathaway Fantine Les Misérables Musical Drama
Rita Moreno Anita West Side Story Musical Drama
Ariana DeBose Award winner Anita West Side Story Musical Drama
Olympia Dukakis Rose Castorini Moonstruck Romantic Comedy
Anne Revere Araminty Brown National Velvet Sports
Melissa Leo Alice Eklund-Ward The Fighter Sports
Claire Trevor Gaye Dawn Key Largo Thriller
Kim Basinger Lynn Bracken L.A. Confidential Thriller
Tilda Swinton Karen Crowder Michael Clayton Thriller
Ingrid Bergman Greta Ohlsson Murder on the Orient Express Thriller
Donna Reed Alma Burke / Lorene From Here to Eternity War