Talk:Acrobat (U2 song)

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Rapid Tremelo[edit]

To describe tremelo as "rapid" is redundant, considering that tremelo means "a rapid repetition of one note in music". It would be like saying "The Edge rapidly rapidly repeated a note." I thank you in advance for not reverting this grammatical correction. Wendel67 08:31, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I was not aware of that - thank you very much for pointing that out, my friend. MelicansMatkin 23:30, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sound Sample?[edit]

Would it be possible to have a sample of the song uploaded? Kiwinil (talk) 05:43, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Lemurbaby (talk · contribs) 20:14, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is it reasonably well written?
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Comments[edit]

missing bibliography info for: McCormick (2006)

The bibliographic entry is U2 (2006). McCormick, Neil. ed. U2 by U2. London: HarperCollins Publisher. ISBN 0-00-719668-7. The book was created in the form of discussions with Neil McCormick, who compiled the band's answers into the volume. U2 WikiProject has always credited the book to McCormick in the footnotes, including all of our FAs. Melicans (talk, contributions) 01:07, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm... It's just a bit atypical since the reader should be able to easily identify the reference from the footnotes. For the FAs, did you use this exact format, identifying McCormick as the author in the cites, but U2 as the author in the references? If they thought that was acceptable at FA then we'll stick with it. Lemurbaby (talk) 08:46, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. "City of Blinding Lights", Mothers of the Disappeared", Achtung Baby, and Zoo TV Tour all follow this format and were passed at FAC. Melicans (talk, contributions) 15:56, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All right, disregard this one. Lemurbaby (talk) 17:48, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I find the first paragraph of the body of the article doesn't fit quite right and would recommend it be removed. There isn't enough of a focus on the song itself here; it's more of a general background to Achtung Baby without making an adequately explicit tie in to the particular sound and themes of this song. Otherwise, considering it wasn't a single or video and wasn't played live, this seems to cover all the available information pretty extensively, and it's well-written as always. Keep up the good work! Lemurbaby (talk) 20:14, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My intention with that first paragraph was to set the tone, as "Acrobat" is the very definition of the harder sound they sought while retaining personal lyrics. In hindsight it does not seem particularly relevant to "Writing and recording". Perhaps it would make more sense and context by placing it in "Composition and theme", where the hard sound and personal lyrics are discussed more in depth? Melicans (talk, contributions) 01:07, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think that different placement would probably flow better. The key is to tie it in to the actual song immediately so the reader isn't left wondering why there's a paragraph about earlier U2 albums in an article about this song. Would you mind trying it out and we'll see how it looks? Lemurbaby (talk) 08:46, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved it down a section; do you think that flows better now? Melicans (talk, contributions) 16:00, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you - looks good! Lemurbaby (talk) 17:48, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ya that flows a lot better now, nice job.Millertime246 (talk) 16:18, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 1 November 2021[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved.

4 editors support the move and none oppose, so I find consensus to move. Acrobat (Gwangil Jo song) was deprodded here.(non-admin closure) Havelock Jones (talk) 14:58, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Acrobat (song) → Acrobat (U2 song) – To avoid confusion with Acrobat (Gwangil Jo song) Suhaengpyeongga (talk) 14:21, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support per WP:SONGDAB. 162 etc. (talk) 17:49, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:SONGDAB. Aoba47 (talk) 18:40, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:SONGDAB.--Ortizesp (talk) 02:02, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The article about the Korean song is brand new and its notability seems poorly established. It hinges mostly the Korean Hip-hop Awards nomination, accompanied by comments from "hip hop fans" and "netizens"; on top of that, it did not chart and no significant coverage is cited (the Business Report article focuses on the artist and only mentions the song). It was proposed for deletion two days ago. So ideally I'd wait with the move until that article is stable and has established notability. I don't necessarily oppose the move, though, since as long as this article does exist, SONGDAB might as well be followed. Lennart97 (talk) 12:03, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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@Havelock Jones: I've retargeted Acrobat (song) to Acrobat (disambiguation)#Music, as you left it as a redirect to Acrobat (U2 song), which would defeat the point of the move. This kind of cleanup should ideally be done by the closer right after moving. Lennart97 (talk) 23:32, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]