Talk:Affiche Rouge

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A scandal?[edit]

According to the French Wikipedia and to many references found on the net, there's no proof that the group was sold by the PCF. There's also a more recent documentary that seems to demonstrate that the arrests were due only to some months of investigations by the French police. To say that "the facts of the deed itself are no longer disputed by anyone" it is highly speculative, and the whole section is not NPOV. GhePeU 20:56, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • I came to this page due to the NPOV request. There is a greater problem with the article than lack of neutrality; namely, it is so poorly written that I can't even tell what the dispute is about. Explication of the dispute is needed. There is far too much knowledge assumed on the part of the reader. E.g. I assumed that "PCF" refers to a French communist (party?) organization, but it is neither identified nor linked. A good start would be to remove the recurring term "authorities" and specify the group or groups with a link to assist the uneducated reader in understanding the setting of WW2 French governance, e.g. Vichy government? A Nazi German Army of Occupation governor?

This article really needs to be rewritten and I am not qualified to do it. There also appears to be some translation problems, such as the phrase "what the trial of the 23 had already proven". To me, this implies unquestionable approval of the facts established at the trial, which doesn't appear to be the intention (or case).

I would also recommend that persons who claim on or another side of the dispute be identified by name or citation. This often illuminates controvery.

Apollo 21:24, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Wow, some really excellent work has been done by Tazmaniacs since I last visited. I'll do some work copy-editing the English translation, and also try to make sure the meaning is clear to people who may not be as knowledgeable about WW2 and the French Resistance. Apollo 17:04, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I spent several hours rewriting the article. It needs to be rechecked for factual accuracy; for example, I wondered why the Vichy government would be involved in posting placards in Paris. Is this accurate? Or perhaps were the posters also posted in parts of France outside Paris?

I am a good copy-editor (I majored in English in college) and I think most of stylistic changes I made are improvements. Notice that, while (at least in the US) people readily know what the "French Resistance" was, the word "Resistant" is not generally used to refer to its members and is meaningless (except to people extremely well-versed in French history of WW2).

The numbering of the references in the article needs work. I'm leaving this to the author(s). Also, I have probably made mistakes in the "Wikipedia" aspects; someone else needs to check stuff like italics and boldface.

Apollo 18:39, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Affiche rouge.jpg[edit]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 07:48, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Affiche rouge.jpg[edit]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:10, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Are more precise dates available?[edit]

The following "dates" need clarification:

  • The Affiche Rouge ("Red Poster") is a famous propaganda poster, distributed by Vichy French and German authorities in the spring of 1944...
  • In the spring of 1944, the collaborationist authorities launched a disinformation campaign...

These seasonal references as dates are in conflict with the MOS (see WP:SEASON). The wording "spring of 1944" is vague, given the rest of the article uses more specific dates. If more precise dates are available from primary sources, they should be used instead. -- B.D.Mills  (T, C) 11:58, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Killing of Olga Bancic[edit]

It is stated in the article that Olga Bancic was brought to Germany and then beheaded "with an axe" in 1944. I hardly believe that, as on Oct. 14, 1936 Hitler had ordered to always use the guillotine in case death penalties were to be carried out as beheadings. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.6.16.93 (talk) 13:03, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Spanish civil war[edit]

most of them had participated in international brigades.Αντικαθεστωτικός (talk) 23:49, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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