Talk:Ahmed al-Assir

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Recent clashes [2013][edit]

Given that there were recent clashes, it was said that there was a warrant of arrest against Ahmed Al-Assir due to the shootings with the libanese army. Should this not be included in the main article? It could be a new subsection perhaps. 194.166.238.99 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:35, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Name spelling in Arabic[edit]

Please note that the correct Arabic spelling fro Al-Assir's name is "الاسير" and not "عسير". (See http://www.annahar.com/article/43906-%D9%85%D8%A7-%D9%87%D9%8A-%D9%82%D8%AF%D8%B1%D8%A9-%D8%B9%D8%B3%D9%83%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A9-%D9%84%D9%84%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%AE-%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%B1). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.191.220.73 (talk) 12:52, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

So why isn't the article "Ahmed captive" instead of "Ahmed al-Assir"?--Auric talk 13:19, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Auric, it is definitely true that most Arabic names are adjectives coming from the Arabic language. However it is very unusual to literally translate these into English or other languages. Arabic names are usually transliterated in Latin letters so that the Latin version merely sounds similar to the Arabic one. For instance, Rafiq Hariri would literally mean "A friend who's made of silk". In this sense, the proper name would be "الاسير". I hope you trust my Lebanese roots on for this one.

Kind regards.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.191.220.73 (talk • contribs) 10:33, June 24, 2013

Interesting. Google translates this as "Prisoner". About al-Assir's name, I was concerned that some sort of subtle vandalism was going on.--Auric talk 17:57, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ties to Qatar[edit]

According to various Arabic sources, Al-Assir does not operate independently but has strong financial and political ties with Qatar. This must be mentioned in this article and shouldn't be seen as an accusation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.191.220.73 (talk) 13:15, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is vandalism to add controversial material to a biography article without reliable sources. Capitalismojo (talk) 13:24, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Accusing someone of bringing not reliable sources when the sources are not explicitly mentioned is at least suspicious. Calm down Capitalismojo...--HCPUNXKID (talk) 09:46, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Suspicious? I'm not certain what that is about. An IP editor had added that the subject was in the pay of foreign governments. This was unsourced and controversial material of a sort that must always be immediately removed from biographies of living people and is in fact considered vandalism. In order to add such one must have sources and reliable sources at that. I remain calm, thank you. Capitalismojo (talk) 11:52, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Background[edit]

Can someone please add this to the article?

Al-Assir's father is from Sidon while his mother hailed from a Shia family in Tyre.^[1]

Thanks because i am not allowed.101.119.17.199 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:27, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ http://english.al-akhbar.com/node/4759

NPOV?[edit]

Wikipedia:Neutral point of view Controversial and current such requires NPOV. Yohananw (talk) 01:49, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Salafism[edit]

The article text states that he is “considered by some” to be a Salafi and yet the infobox lists his denomination as Salafi. In my view these two things are incompatible (is he Salafi or is he “considered to be”?) Postleft (talk) 04:34, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://english.al-akhbar.com/node/4759

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