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Possible history COI edits happening to this article, an editor has the same name as the article and is adding un-cited information. Note left here in case this issue persists. Jooojay (talk) 06:27, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Today a new user removed the citation in relationship to Tufts, stating it was controversial or contentious material. It came from the following citation:
"There, she and fellow art historian Eleanor Tufts became life partners. She and Tufts set up a home in Dallas, spending summers searching for works by neglected women artists for documentation."[1]
The question is, how is this controversial or inaccurate? The user claims in an autobiography Comini claims it was not romantic - however this a primary source. I will keep the information removed from the article space but I am wondering if anyone here can elaborate? Jooojay (talk) 17:29, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
References
^"Comini, Alessandra". Dictionary of Art Historians. 2018-02-21. Retrieved 2020-07-30.
Dear Jooojay, as I have done before, I can elaborate. Please compare both pages of Eleanor Tufts and Alessandra Comini in the cited primary source The dictionary of American Art Historians. On Eleanor Tuft's page you will find a description of the research cooperation as scientists of the two ladies but not a word of a shared home or lifepartners. This is an inconsistency which only makes clear that the source as primary as it may be is not infallible. Just as Wikipedia the Dictionary of American Art Historians is created by humans. And humans even scholarly trained humans make mistakes. It might be of interest as to how Mr. Lee Sorensen from Duke University, the distinguished founder of The Dictionary and author, sees these two entries. We might also ask him about his ethical approach to privacy. It cannot be a reliable information when life partnership (including the death date and even the cause of death of the supposed life partner Tuft) is stated on the page of Comini while Tuft's page in the Dictionary of Art Historians says nothing of the sort. All these are private matters, I wonder how Mr. Lee Sorensen came to his information he wrote on Comini's page but not on Tuft's. Did he spend time with the two ladies? Did he observe their daily life? Did he go with them on their research trips? Oh dear - was this a threesome by any chance??? Then this should me made public, too, shouldn't it, in both The Dictionary and on Wikipedia. Seriously, Jooojay, where does Mr. Sorensen's information "life partners" come from and why is there no proper source stated for it in the Dictionary of American Art Historians, if this is regarded "primary"? We should ask him.Now Jooojay if you ask me why I am so fervently defending Alessandra Comini's privacy, the answer is easy: I admire her work, I read all of her books, listened to her speeches, saw her speak at several of her Schiele-teachings and museum or exhibition openings in Austria and for me as for thousands of her students she is a living legend. Not just a living legend of bringing art history to life, she has also pioneered in interdisciplinarity - just look at her list of publications. She is now 85 years old and just these days her new crime novel came out, something to do with Beethoven, because of the Beethoven anniversary 2020 (he was born in 1770). These are facts of primary quality and of interest, not the question of who she possibly partnered with in her private life 30 years ago. Why this interest in the lady's sex life? We really should ask Mr. Sorensen, author of the Dictionary of Art Historians, how he came about the "life partner" idea. And why it mattered to him in the case of Comini but not in the case of Tufts. Dear Joojay, I hope I have elaborated for you in a satisfactory manner. Wishing you the best for your future search for life partners. All typos courtesy of my smartphone (Ludwigadebono (talk) 23:13, 3 August 2020 (UTC))Ludwigadebono Ludwigadebono (talk) 23:13, 3 August 2020 (UTC)Ludwigadebono[reply]
And, Jooojay, I do care for privacy in general, because it is a human right and I am a human rights defender. (Ludwigadebono (talk) 23:18, 3 August 2020 (UTC))Ludwigadebono[reply]
I am not sure how much of any of this is a privacy issue? But I understand your concerns. To clarify, nobody described Comini's sexuality in the Wikipedia article at any point - and nothing you removed from this article was about sex. There are other citations about their life together,[1][2][3] typically contentious material is removed when something is poorly sourced, see WP:GRAPEVINE. Jooojay (talk) 01:45, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
^Whitley, Glenna (1986). "FOUR CREAT PROFESSORS". D Magazine. Retrieved 2020-08-04. her Park Cities home, which she shares with SMU professor Eleanor Tufts...
^Wayne Jones, Arnold (2018-06-08). "A (gay) night at the museum". Dallas Voice. Retrieved 2020-08-04. DMA by feminist art historian Alessandra Comini, who dedicated the gift to her late partner, Eleanor Tufts.
Dear Joooyay thank you for these links, these are new to me.But still I di not understand what the life partnership and the death and even the death cause is so important in this case. You say that marital status of a person is often cited, yes, but why here? And of course it is an information comcerning a persons sex life. The "life partnership" in this case-sinpky implies that the person has a gay sex life. Oh Hoooyay, yI have no time to elaborate more on this. I have a job, a family and some other things to attend to. I can't keep up discussing this on a-daily basis. Please take my word I am not involved, I simply adore AC like thousands of other people male and female for her work - her American and international students, so many people here in Vienna, Austria and Niederösterreich (mostly those interested in Cominis speciality, the Fin de Siecle Art of Vienna) and elsewhere.Thank you for not unreverting what has been reverted. Thank you for the many informations, will study and learn.(Ludwigadebono (talk) 07:36, 4 August 2020 (UTC))Ludwigadebono[reply]
All typis courtesy of my smartphone. Sorry, would like to correct but must run to work.(Ludwigadebono (talk) 07:38, 4 August 2020 (UTC))Ludwigadebono[reply]
@Ludwigadebono: I know your new to Wikipedia and the policies, how about taking sometime to read about it? I left you a link list and welcome on your talk page. Jooojay (talk) 17:44, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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