Talk:Alessandro Rütten

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As Rütten has now had four stage names and instead of moving the page to whichever he currently wants to perform under ("Leo Dante" certainly wouldn't meet WP:COMMONNAME), it seems more fitting to have the page located at his birth name, which he also started his career with. Unless somebody can actually prove he is best known as either Sammy Clay, Sandro Nicolas or "TYLR"/"Tylr", then this seems like the best fit. The guy seems like he will repeatedly try to reinvent himself until he gets big, so I also think Wikipedia editors should stop catering to his every name change especially as he doesn't seem to have one identity that sticks out more than the others. Even when his full stage name was "Sandro Nicolas" during Eurovision, he still went by the mononym "Sandro", so that doesn't seem the best either. Ss112 01:59, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ss112: I'm fine with this move, but am also debating whether another AfD (or a merge) would be warranted. It's now been over 2 years since the failed ESC appearance, and the subject has still not found notability. I can sympathize with how tough it is to become an established artist, but I'm not really sure we can just wait around for future notability. Grk1011 (talk) 14:10, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]