Talk:America Football Club (Rio de Janeiro)

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The result of the move request was: Page moved. The consensus shows support for "America Football Club (Rio de Janeiro)" as a more appropriate name. (closed by non-admin page mover) -- Dane talk 03:51, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]


America Football Club (RJ) → America Football Club (Rio de Janeiro) – moving to official name with disambiguator spelt in full Hack (talk) 11:44, 29 December 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. —MRD2014 (talk • contribs) 16:43, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support per nom. Wouldn't have a clue what RJ meant. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:25, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - Not only is this the standard way of dabbing clubs on enWiki per América Football Club, I believe this is also the standard way that clubs are distinguished from each other in Brazil (it certainly is from my memories of Football Manager - not that that necessarily means anything), hence why the official website is america-rj.com.br and RSSSF refers to them as America (RJ). Fenix down (talk) 15:32, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. Fenix down (talk) 15:35, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - this is standard disambiguator for Brazilian clubs. GiantSnowman 19:06, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Very interesting. It seems that these clubs officially use a similar disambiguation technique to Wikipedia, but with not quite the same conventions. So what looks like a parenthetical disambiguation is actually, from our point of view, instead a common name. Andrewa (talk) 11:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. The link provided above for "official site" is dead, but the current official site seems to be at http://www.americario.com.br/... clearly this web address uses "rio" as the disambiguator, meaning that the "RJ" is not uniformly applied. Far better and more WP:RECOGNIZABLE for us to spell out the name of the city, then anyone who looks will know what this is.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:35, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. On reflection, I don't think we can allow the current article name. To our readers, this looks like the Wikipedia parenthetical disambiguation convention, which it is not. As has been pointed out, we would not use the RJ disambiguator, as it is unrecognisable. All very confusing to the reader. It may be that we need to tweak WP:AT and/or WP:DAB to cover such cases, but meantime, the action with this article is clear (under WP:IAR if necessary): We use the more concise but ambiguous common name, and disambiguate it according to our own conventions, as proposed. This should be a precedent for other clubs at present (seemingly) disambiguated (RJ). Their official names do not take precedence over our naming policy. Andrewa (talk) 19:32, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment It would affect lots of article i think, the CBF use RJ, SP, RS commonly. Matthew_hk tc 17:47, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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