Talk:Andrew Fisher (political activist)

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Notability[edit]

Regarding notability: Fisher has now been the subject of coverage in most major UK papers. I believe this goes well beyond BLP1E: a leader's senior aide and head of policy being suspended from the party at the request of other party members is probably unprecedented. -- Impsswoon (talk) 04:51, 8 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 8 November 2015[edit]

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The result of the move request was: moved to Andrew Fisher (political activist), which seemed to get an agreement. Let me know if you think it worth reopening to see if "British" is necessary. Jenks24 (talk) 06:19, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew Fisher (Labour activist) → Andrew Fisher (British political activist) (or Andrew Fisher (political activist) if preferred) – The reason for his notability is his relationship with the Labour Party - but, as I understand it, he is not a member of the Labour Party currently, and it is therefore inappropriate to describe him as a "Labour activist". Hence, the article should be moved. This may be contentious, so I'm allowing the opportunity for discussion. Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:08, 8 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support, although strictly speaking we don't need to define his nationality because we don't have articles on any similarly named political activists. This is Paul (talk) 14:47, 8 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OK, alt now added. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:12, 8 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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notability[edit]

Not seeing an long term notability, anyone got a good reason not to nominate to delete? Govindaharihari (talk) 14:28, 8 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Did you see the first thread on this page? My view is that it would be, at best, premature to delete. Currently, he is the subject of a large number of news articles in reliable sources - [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], etc. etc. He has been the subject of news reports for several weeks - [6], [7], etc. Until the current situation is resolved and settles down, he and his background will remain a focus of interest and news reports, which may in turn impact on Corbyn's leadership. Therefore, the article should remain, be renamed as I proposed above, and be expanded, rather than deleted. Ghmyrtle (talk) 14:36, 8 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'd also hold off from AFD-ing this for now until we see what happens, and until we can establish if he is notable for anything else. It's a shame articles of this nature often seem to appear when there's controversy of some description, and that becomes the dominant aspect of it. This is Paul (talk) 14:53, 8 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

its a current news notability - I will wait and nominate later Govindaharihari (talk) 15:03, 8 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Do we know what else he's done in terms of a public profile? This is Paul (talk) 15:05, 8 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

nothing at all Govindaharihari (talk) 15:09, 8 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well I suppose being Labour's head of policy (if, indeed, that is/was his role) may get this past WP:GNG, but we probably need to establish his job title. He must also have a background that we could add (academia, other political roles, etc). Surely Corbyn wouldn't have appointed him without some credentials. This is Paul (talk) 15:15, 8 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

He is not Labour's head of policy - he is a "senior" (?) policy adviser to Corbyn. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:34, 8 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I think I may have meant Corbyn's head of policy, which is how he is currently described in the article. This is Paul (talk) 16:01, 8 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

He is not notable, we'll let the press focus from today go away and when it quiets down we will delete this article. Govindaharihari (talk) 17:53, 8 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, we will nominate it for deletion at least. This is Paul (talk) 21:25, 8 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest you hold off for a month or two, or it will just have to be un-deleted just as fast. I suspect this one will run and run, and it's becoming about a lot more than just Fisher himself -- there's a lot happening inside the Labour movement right now. For that reason, we can expect lots more coverage of Fisher's past political activities as the press start to get dug in; which will, ironically enough, remove any BLP1E issues. -- Impsswoon (talk) 20:57, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]