Talk:Andrew Grimwade

Changes following AfD vote

In the AfD vote, I promised to improve this article, and have done so. I have researched and added the section "Conviction for fraud and conspiricy", deleted some material, and rewritten the rest. Herostratus 09:24, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

The following material has been deleted:

In 1968, he wrote and published the limited-edition book Involvement - 
The Portraits of Clifton Pugh & Mark Strizic, about the place of Pugh as
a multi-Archibald Prize Winning Painter in the history of Australian 
portraiture, with a catalogue of Pugh’s portraits of controversial 
sitters juxtaposed against contemporaneous photographs by Strizic.

because it was a private (vanity) printing. Basic publishing info about the book was retained.

Material on Grimwade's degrees has been removed as not of interest.

This:

In 1968, Grimwade donated 6,500 acres of coastal land with a 16-mile
ocean frontage on The Coorong in South Australia to the State Government
to create The Coorong National Park.

seemed misleading, as according to the Coorong National Park article the park was established in 1966 and has an area of 467 square km, so Sir Andrew's gift would be about 5.6% of that. That figure does understate the value of Sir Andrew's gift, though, as his land was basically a 27 km long and 1 km deep coastal strip (on average, according to my calculations).

This was removed

In 1980, he conducted a One-man Board of Review into 
Victorian Government Salaries & Parliamentary Allowances.

because... what is a one-man board of review? There is no mention of who commisioned it. It sound like it could be a private undertaking. I note that his more accomplished younger brother was in parliament at the time... Herostratus 09:24, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Snark

I went a lot easier on this guy than he probably deserves. As far as I can see he is notable for two things: defrauding people and getting off by exploiting a weakness in the legal system, and giving some prime beachfront property to the nation. As to the latter, I don't know the circumstances, but it is entire likely that 1) he inherited the land, 2) wasn't using it, 3) got a nice tax break and some great positive publicity, and 4) might well have been practically forced to give up the land by the government who, I infer, might have owned the surrounding land and been able to cut off his overland access, certainly for construction equipment needed for meaningful development. So how great is that, anyway?

As for the rest, everything he's done is basically giving out bequests from trusts established by his forebears, and taking a seat on boards of various institutions grateful for and desirous of "his" money. Sure, he could have just played golf all day instead, but does deciding not to play golf all day rate very much praise. My dad, who was born into dire poverty, was hella more accomplished than this guy, and he's never gonna get an article. That frosts me, basically.

Plus this article was written by user "Grimwade", whose only contribution (so far) is this article.

I dunno. I might come back and make the felonies more prominant. I wonder... he was convicted, but it was overturned on appeal... so can I put him in the category "Australian criminals" I wonder. He was a criminal between the conviction and appeal ruling... Herostratus 09:24, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Hell yeah. If that's wrong, another editor can correct me.

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