Talk:Andrew Hussie

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Regarding Andrew's Age[edit]

While Hussie stated that he was born the same year that The Neverending Story film adaptation was released, the second post on this page seems to contradict that statement.

I'm really not sure what's going on here. ChappedLocust (talk) 05:10, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

An obituary published in the Daily Hampshire Gazette on May 29, 2014, lists one Andrew Hussie of Easthampton (born 1949) as having two sons, Andrew and Byron, born 1979 and 1981. Working at article subject Andrew Hussie's company, What Pumpkin, as director of operations, is Byron Hussie. Additionally, Andrew and Byron Hussie applied for a patent in the state of Massachusetts, Andrew from Amherst. These are compelling connections, though I'm not sure how it could be proven difinitively that these are the same people. [1][2][3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Happybluemo (talkcontribs) 20:17, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fairly certain his birthday is August 25th, according to this forum thread (made at about 1am on the day) and this tweet from 2013 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.155.80.46 (talk) 16:52, 15 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

His archived blog suggests his birthday is the day before August 26th, i.e. August 25th. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.144.7.73 (talk) 17:07, 22 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

He was featured in a news article in December of 2002, stating his age as 24, which assuming the birth date of the 25th August is correct would make his birth year 1978. However The afore mentioned obituary seems like a far more accurate source of information for year of birth. 82.8.218.209 (talk) 19:44, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

Whistles - Out of print?[edit]

Just 4 months ago I was able to order (and did order and receive) a physical copy of Whistles from Angus & Robertson's website. However it no longer appears to be available for purchase, so I'm not sure what to say about that. But my point is that there is no source for printing having stopped? So is it possible that it is simply hard to find as opposed to out of print entirely? - 124.184.255.223 (talk) 10:27, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect ISBNs?[edit]

Whistles, Problem Sleuth Volumes 1 and 2, and Dinosaur Comics: EKFiJSRD are all listed using a 10-digit ISBN. However 10-digit ISBNs were only issued prior to 2007, after January 1st 2007 all issued ISBNs are 13-digits. All four of those books were published after January 1st 2007. I own a copy of Whistles and it has a 13-digit ISBN on the back, and the TopatoCo pages for Problem Sleuth Volumes 1 and 2 list 13-digit ISBNs for both of them (its Vol. 2 ISBN is incorrect but the MSPA Wiki has the correct one), and the Dinosaur Comics page lists a 13-digit ISBN as well.

So I don't know if there is any reason the 10-digit variations were used, but given that they should be 13-digits I am going to change them. - The Light6 (talk) 11:49, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Wait I thought Hussie was a dude[edit]

Came back to this article because Hussie left HS^2 and now all of the pronouns are they/them? I looked into this and cannot find anything about Hussie becoming enby. The Homestuck Wikipedia article still has he/him, as do the MSPA wiki pages and other various media. What's up with this? (The update that changed the pronouns does not seem to give any additional sources to support the change. Undoing the edit for now, until sources are provided.) iRDM 22:36, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I beleive there is a now deleated tweet verifying Hussie's non binary status. They use Any/All Pronouns and What Pumpkin is now refering to them using They/Them Pronouns. I beleive there is also an official announcement in the Psycholonials game. This would need to be double checked so the pronouns used throughout the article reflect their desires. TheCeaselessWatcher (talk) 10:09, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Currently the Wikipedia article is written with he/him pronouns. This matches all the sources cited in the article. A deleted tweet is not a great source. There is a short press release on What Pumpkin that uses they/them. I wasn't able to find anything on the Psycholonials website (and I haven't played the game itself). They/them is gender neutral anyway so I wouldn't object to using it, but it would be better for the article to cite a source on this matter. HenryCrun15 (talk) 23:01, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Controversies[edit]

I was wondering if anyone thought it would be a good idea to update this page with any of Andrew Hussie's controversies. It could be good for context of character and authorial intent. This could include the Homestuck Game Kickstarter and his comments with youtuber Sarah Z. I will post some links below, but due to Hussie's internet fame I am not sure If they are the most schollarly.

Controversies from GiovanaH's research and perspective[1][2].

First citation is from the mspa wiki talking about a controversy around Skaianet and worries of anti-sematism[3], second is an image of the apology on the old skaianetsystems website[4].

PDF of email logs about a large community controversy in the first half of 2020 and other greivences between Hussie and admins/fans[5].

Sarah Z fact checking some of these sources. The second video has screen shots from Hussie[6] [7].

Potentially other good topics to research/find appropriot sources for would be the backlash from the Caucasian comments (and stating that none of his characters are black), Use of perceived racial stereotype tropes (And backlash), and old comics containing racist content that have been archived.

Very new, let me know if I should have done anything different. TheCeaselessWatcher (talk) 09:57, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I would say no, as I don't think any of these are reliable sources. I had a look for any other coverage but couldn't find any, so I would say wait until the controversies are covered by better sources. Tacyarg (talk) 11:03, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I would agree that none of these are reliable sources. If they inspire someone to find reliable sources, that's great, but until then the rules for biographies of living persons are very clear about needing reliable sources and to not include rumors or unproven claims. HenryCrun15 (talk) 23:04, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Policy has been updated on WP:CRIT to not make sections specifically surrounding Controversies. You can have sections that detail specific events, but good luck including them in a WP:BLP
192.77.12.11 (talk) 11:57, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ H, Giovan. "The Hiveswap Fiasco". GioCities. Retrieved 8 July 2021.
  2. ^ H, Giovan. "More on the Hiveswap Odd Gentlemen Debacle". GioCities. Retrieved 8 July 2021.
  3. ^ "Skaianet Systems Incorporated: Criticism and apology". MS Paint Adventures Wiki. Retrieved 8 July 2021.
  4. ^ "Apology message from Andrew Hussie (relating to some of the hidden site content) posted on skaianetsystems.com". not-terezi-pyrope. Retrieved 8 July 2021. {{cite web}}: |first1= missing |last1= (help)
  5. ^ Reddit: Homestuck https://www.reddit.com/r/homestuck/comments/hswn9z/remember_lads_hussie_does_not_care_about_us/. {{cite web}}: |first1= missing |last1= (help); Missing or empty |title= (help)CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link)
  6. ^ Z, Sarah. "A Brief History of Homestuck". YouTube. Sarah Z. Retrieved 8 July 2021.
  7. ^ Z, Sarah. "Homestuck Sent Me A Legal Threat, And Then It Got Worse". YouTube. SarahZ. Retrieved 8 July 2021.

Pronouns[edit]

I can't find an actual source for this, but according to several people on Twitter and elsewhere, Hussie uses any/all pronouns, which may be confirmed by a tweet Hussie made semi-privately and the credits of Psycholonials. At what point are sourced needed or not needed to change pronouns on a page? Likeanechointheforest (talk) 18:10, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you can't find a source, then I wouldn't suggest any changes at the moment. Finding a source would be an important first step. HenryCrun15 (talk) 08:33, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]