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Angus King one of Glen Jacob's early wrestling gimmicks

The wrestler currently wrestling as Kane called himself Angus King in the early part of his career. There should be a "see also" linbk to Kane, but I don't know how to do it. 66.43.44.53 (talk) 21:11, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

There should also be something in this article about the controversy over industrial wind in Maine, the evident cronyism throughout the permitting and subsidy process, and King's profiting off it all. Cowcharge (talk) 04:17, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Time Magazine

To the users who are intent on removing my Time magazine information, I thought we could dicuss it here instead of engaging in an edit war. I was adding the article to add more background information to the race. Why do you think it shouldn't be there? Whitestorm17 (talk) 23:45, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

As I stated in my edit summary, it only restates what is said already and doesn't add anything new or different other than to say that Sen. King was mentioned in Time magazine; we aren't here to catalog media mentions of the Senator. We already have citations for saying King chose to caucus with Democrats and that he has Sen. Snowe's seat. 331dot (talk) 23:50, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I can understand that. Thanks for being understanding! Whitestorm17 (talk) 00:22, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Independent Senator

King is not the only independent senator. Bernie Sanders was elected as an independent, and is listed by the Senate as an independent.[1] And the edit summary saying he registered as a Democrat[2] is inaccurate. It is not possible for a Vermont resident to register as a Democrat. TFD (talk) 03:55, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

@The Four Deuces: I highly suggest you read the Boston Globe story cited; in New Hampshire only party members can appear on the primary ballot; the article mentions potential challenges to "his status as a member of the party". Sanders also told a reporter that he was a Democrat. He might sit as an independent in the Senate, but he is now a registered Democrat. 331dot (talk) 04:23, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
Sanders' own article also states he is a Democrat. 331dot (talk) 04:25, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
Yes, I read the article. It says, "Sanders is technically not a Democrat in the US Senate, though he caucuses with the party. His home state of Vermont does not register its voters with a party."[3] And if he were a registered Democrat and sat in the Senate as an independent, as I believe Joe Lieberman did, it would still be wrong to call him a Democratic senator. And Sanders' article is not a reliable source for this article. TFD (talk) 04:51, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
I would suggest bringing this up on Talk:Bernie Sanders since the statment here was consistent with his article. He doesn't have to be registered as a Democrat in Vermont to be a member of the party; as I said above, he has told at least one reporter he is a Democrat. 331dot (talk) 04:59, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
I believe Lieberman left the Democrats; he formed his own political party for ballot access purposes in Conneticut. 331dot (talk) 05:01, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Somebody should flesh out the material on King's background. He was in college and law school during the peak years of the Vietnam War, but not a word about how he avoided the draft is included. For people his age, and particularly for folks with public service ambitions, the Vietnam War would have been a pivotal point in his life. Yet the main article ignores it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.238.77 (talk) 02:36, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

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2024 retirement?

I have found zero sources to back this up. Can someone help me out? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.174.164.20 (talk) 05:11, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Is Bernie Sanders a Democrat or an Independent - lede of King article

Hi. We have a little bit of an baby edit war going on via King's lede about whether Bernie Sanders is currently a member of the Democratic party. An IP edited it, stating that he is the only independent at this time due to Sanders being a Democratic. It was reverted by User:331dot who disagreed. I put it back with a citation. It was reverted, again, by User:331dot who suggested I bring it up on the talk page - so here we are (and thanks User:331dot for your diligence in helping to maintain this article and others related to Maine!). In 2019, Sanders signed a pledge stating he is a member of the Democratic party in order to run on the Democratic ticket. Citations here:

Now, there are more references, but, I don't think it's necessary to get into all of them. In order to run on a Democratic ticket you have to be a Democrat - it's that simple. He did this a few years ago, he signed the pledged, named himself a Democrat, and then became an Independent after he failed to get the nomination. I think it's important to mention this on King's lede that Sanders is currently a Democrat - leaving King the only independent - due to Sander's run for the presidency. I don't want to get into an edit war, I just know that he's currently a Democrat and will be throughout this primary and perhaps beyond, depending on what happens. Folks ok with this? I don't really know how anyone can disagree that he's currently a Democrat, he's running on the Democratic ticket and had to prove his loyalty to the DNC in order to do it, or they wouldn't have let him. Thanks everyone. Missvain (talk) 15:29, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Missvain I would suggest that you sort this out at Bernie Sanders, which states "Sanders is the longest-serving independent in U.S. congressional history, though he has a close relationship with the Democratic Party, having caucused with House and Senate Democrats for most of his congressional career. Sanders ran unsuccessfully for the 2016 Democratic nomination for president and is running again in 2020. Before entering each race, he pledged to serve as a Democrat if elected." No claim that he is actually a Democrat. This is made more complicated because Vermont does not register voters by party. Apparently I took your position four years ago, but I've changed since then. 331dot (talk) 15:33, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Impeachment comments

@331dot: I don't have any ovewhelmingly strong feelings as to whether this belongs in the article, but will say in its defence that (1) comments and deeds that are reported on not only in their immediate aftermath but also retrospectively months or years later have a greater claim to noteworthiness than comments that haven't received that sort of sustained attention; (2) it's a significant ommission for this article to have no discussion of Trump's impeachment whatsoever, given that it was one of the more significant goings-on in the Senate over the last few years; and (3) "all politicians do this" is not a great rationale for not including it since all politicians stand in elections, cast votes, belong to committees, etc., yet we (rightly) describe these things in their biographies. I'd be interested to know what others think. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 17:47, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

I'm wondering why Politico's opinion as to Senator King's guesses merits inclusion in an encyclopedia article. Lots of people, including politicians, make incorrect guesses. If he had guessed correctly, would it still merit inclusion? Discussing the impeachment vote is fine, but I don't think this is the vehicle to do that with. 331dot (talk) 17:49, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
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