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IP (73.250.37.15), you are not the first music critic to come around and "correct" their articles on Wikipedia. Your edits are problematic for numerous reasons, and you would do much better to have posted on this talk page asking for assistance (particularly because if you are indeed Ms. Midgette, you have a clear WP:COI).

Some of your corrections, such as the change to Willard Midgette as Midgette's father and the addition of Bernstein's Mass are most welcome, since they are cited clearly (and are my mistakes to begin with). Others, such as the edit to Midgette's time in Munich, the addition of "and grew up in New Mexico and Brooklyn, New York" and the change to Washington, DC are uncited and is thus prohibited as original research. You seem to be engaging some strange self curation as well, such as removing the cited sentence on Bizet. I am happy to work with you, but you need to go about doing this the correct way. Aza24 (talk) 20:58, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Aza: Thank you for the link, and for your patience with my ignorance about aspects of this site. I can't prove that I am Anne Midgette, but I can cite enough published proof to back up the small changes I suggested.
I tried to remove the Bizet anecdote because as it stood, it wasn't correct. I first heard the Bizet "Agnus Dei" when I was 21 and living in Munich, and it was my introduction to Enrico Caruso - here's a published account: https://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/20/arts/caruso-s-tenor-century-later-memorabilia-shown-metropolitan-honors-legend.html . I thus tried to replace it with the anecdote about Bernstein's "Mass," which actually was a pivotal experience from my childhood.
The claim that I was the first woman to review classical music regularly for a major publication is demonstrably false: Claudia Cassidy was at the Chicago Tribune from 1942-1965; Manuela Hoelterhoff won a Pulitzer Prize for her criticism in the Wall Street Journal in 1982; Shirley Fleming was for years on the staff of the New York Post (her Wikipedia entry asserts, I believe incorrectly, that she was at the New York Times as well; her Times obit would almost certainly have included that had it been true: https://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/12/arts/music/shirley-fleming-classical-music-critic-dies-at-75.html); and there was Lesley Valdes at the Philadelphia Inquirer, and Heidi Waleson at the Wall Street Journal (still there!). and the list goes on. I was the first woman to review classical music regularly for The New York Times: https://www.furious.com/perfect/annemidgettecritical.html
The BGSU website from 2006 that avers that we live in Manhattan was accurate then, but is no longer; we have lived in Washington, DC since 2010. I can offer my husband's website: https://gregsandow.com/about-me/ or my Washington Post author page with 12 years' worth of local reviews: https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/anne-midgette/
I lived in Munich for 11.5 years, from August, 1986 to January, 1998; there's a mention in this interview: https://www.furious.com/perfect/annemidgette.html .
Where I grew up is unimportant, but we left Portland when I was three years old, so in the interests of accuracy I added Brooklyn and New Mexico, geographical claims I can at least roughly back up with mentions in these articles, here: https://www.washingtonian.com/2008/09/04/post-watch-jazzing-up-the-coverage-of-classical-music-with-anne-midgette/ and here: https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB87323174159933000 and here: https://www.notesfrommusicianskitchens.com/post/anne-midgette-s-don-s-flank-steak and here: https://www.npr.org/sections/monitormix/2009/11/ten_questions_for_a_critic_the.html . Too, my father's Wikipedia page -- Willard Midgette -- mentions that he died in Brooklyn.
Thanks for all your work on this. 73.250.37.15 (talk) 06:06, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for all of this. Due to IRL time constraints, I regret that I will not be able to address these concerns until this weekend. Unless someone else gets to it before me, I will do so then and report back. Best – Aza24 (talk) 05:56, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oh goodness, there's no rush - thank you for being so conscientious! All best, Anne 73.250.37.15 (talk) 17:09, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I am somewhat struggling to understand your concern with the Bizet anecdote, but have removed it as rather trivial to begin with and perhaps not as notable as the Bernstein concert. I've updated the Washington DC vs Manhattan issue, and added Brooklyn & NM with your much appreciated provided sources. I regret that I'm not able to properly adjust the Munich stay to 11 and a half years due to the source you've given saying only "11", but have gone with "nearly 12 years" instead, which I think balances the reality with what we have from cited sources.
I'm glad you brought up the "first woman ..." matter. I must apologize profusely for so blatantly misreading Grove in this respect. You have to understand that my work on your article was rather fast-paced, as part of a personal effort to improve the articles of numerous music critics (Tommasini, Swed, Dyer etc.). I've updated it accordingly. I am so used to Grove being wrong about things, I must have just assumed they were again to rationalize my misreading. Having knowledge of Cassidy and indeed Mary Cowden Clarke, I should have double checked. Do let me know your thoughts on these changes. Best – Aza24 (talk) 22:08, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for making all the changes! It looks fine now. As for the Bizet anecdote, it was indeed trivial to begin with; and the whole point of the anecdote was that it was my introduction to Caruso and opened my ears to a new world of vocal possibility, so leaving out Caruso and implying that I somehow fell in love with the piece itself was a misrepresentation; I was already completely opera-mad when I heard that recording. I had plenty of pivotal experiences when I was much younger (like the Bernstein Mass), so it seemed arbitrary to cite this moment from when I was 21 as the only mention of something that influenced me. Thanks for taking it out. -- And I'm really glad that Grove didn't make the claim I was the first woman to write in a major publication; I don't have access to that source, but I was concerned that it might need correcting (since I concur that they are often wrong about things). Also, thanks to you I created an account here so I'm no longer just identified by random numbers, though I'm not sure I will actually flesh it out. Thanks and best, Classicalbeat (talk) 13:33, 26 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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