Talk:Anthony Stokes

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Reference[edit]

Does anyone have any basis for the claim that Anthony Stokes is currently dating Ruth O'Neill? Nyron Nosworthy was recently quoted on the official Sunderland site as saying Stokes was single. 30 May 2007.

Vandalism[edit]

If somebody has this page watched, you might want to look out for vandalism. Notice it after a few of my Irish football related pages were vandalised by the same IP as the last one who vandalised this. Dodge 02:49, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Man Utd[edit]

What's his link with the team? I know he played in the Kennedy Cup with Man Utd but was this a trial or was he actually signed underage to them. I've heard that he turned Utd down, and also that Utd didnt want him cos he was a trouble maker.

Sunday World[edit]

I've reverted as the article says John Stokes has links to the RIRA and is from a reliable source. You've also deleted the reliably sourced infomation about the police raid on the pub. The Ryan brothers and Stokes also attended a RIRA rally together, according to the reliable source, so they weren't just drinking in his pub. Mattun0211 (talk) 10:42, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No straw man arguments please. I'm not saying he is responsible for the actions of his father. This comes under his personal life section, and is reliably sourced. Please use the talk page in future. Thank you Mattun0211 (talk) 10:49, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, but that does not meet the spirit of WP:BLP. What does any of the article have to do with Anthony Stokes? That is what the article is supposed to be about. It has been widely reported that his father owns a pub and protested against the Queen's visit to Ireland. That's probably worthy of inclusion - those are facts that have been noted in various reliable sources. This is one article talking about "links" to his father, which is too far removed from the subject in hand. For example, look at the amount of discussion of George H. W. Bush on the George W. Bush article - it mentions the fact he was vice-president and president, and that's about it. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 10:50, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

One source, an Irish tabloid, and your addition was not encyclopaedic. Adam4267 (talk) 10:57, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Do a search and you will find other sources on the RIRA and John Stokes from reliable sources such as the Daily Record and STV [1], [2].

I'm sorry too, but you can't demand an editor follows BLP, as your link points out. Reliably sourced info about the father is fine as long as its under personal life. This wiki article about a footballer even mentions an ex-girlfriends father [3] in the personal life section. All this is reliably sourced. Feel free to add the information about the Queen's visit if you wish. Mattun0211 (talk) 11:10, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BLP states: Wikipedia contains biographical material on people who, while notable enough for an entry, are not generally well known. In such cases, exercise restraint and include only material relevant to their notability, focusing on high quality secondary sources. Material published by the subject may be used, but with caution; see above. Material that may adversely affect a person's reputation should be treated with special care; in many jurisdictions, repeating a defamatory claim is actionable, and there is additional protection for subjects who are not public figures.

IMO, Anthony Stokes qualifies as someone who, while notable enough for a Wikipedia entry (as a professional football player), is not generally well known (ie outside of football). His father's alleged activities are not relevant to his notability as a footballer. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 11:19, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

IMO, he is well enough known in his field - Scottish football. In any case, we have reliable sources at hand. This wiki policy is really aimed at stopping people putting out unsourced, defamatory material. As long as we are guided by reliable sources, as we have been, I see no problem here. Mattun0211 (talk) 11:42, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have left my opinion at the MedCab case, but will do so here. While the matter is sourced, it is not related to the subject of the article. This content should not be reinserted into the article. It's purely negative material about someone that is related to the subject of the article, but not the subject of the article itself. Steven Zhang ^{The clock is ticking....} 12:10, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

BLP's need to be carefully written on wikipedia. This information although well sourced is indirectly related to the articles subject. If the sources exist an article relating to John Stokes (Irish Publican) himself linked to from this article would be more appropriate. Monkeymanman (talk) 18:07, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

However, writing an article on someone who is only notable for one event is also discouraged. If this is the only mention their father has in the media, there should not be an article on it. Wikipedia is not a tabloid. Steven Zhang ^{The clock is ticking....} 01:45, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. I wasn't so familiar with BLP. Mattun0211 (talk) 09:04, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Steven Zhang ^{The clock is ticking....} 09:12, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Conviction for violence[edit]

Stokes has a criminal conviction Anthony Stokes(Coachtripfan (talk) 19:20, 16 February 2017 (UTC))[reply]