Talk:Attar/Archive 1

Archive 1

Archive 2

Needs to be cleaned up

I have undone the horrible deletion of most of the information by the previous user. I have added proper references, please include them if you want to add anything further so it's not again deleted by others. Thanks--Rudvedic (talk) 10:03, 2 May 2017 (UTC)rudvedic

majorly. Grammar is atrocious.

Agree, serious difficulties caused by non-standard English. Some sections are difficult to comprehend because of the poor language. Everybody got to be somewhere! (talk) 23:19, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

• Attar wasn't introduced by Muslims. As already mentioned Attar (Sugandha) has been known and manufactured in India thousands of years before Islam.
• How can I change the original text? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.10.173.4 (talk) 04:06, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
  • just sign in, edit the page and save . Make sure to check a preview first Leningrad (talk)
• They balance the Doshas (Vata, Pitta & Kapha) and promote the energy of the Chakras. sound like crap to me. Who can clear this? Simon de Danser (talk) 17:20, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
• There is no mention of the method of production / distillation or of the ancient techniques . That would be a nice addition --- Leningrad (talk) July 2014

charaka samhita, sushruta samhita, birhat samhita and other texts

do these texts specifically mention making attars like mixing herbs with sandal wood to extract herbs smells because this is very important for making attars, indians were known for agarwood perfumery, i ust wanna know that if attar making is attested in these texts, because i was watching one video where it is stated that persian perfumist Attar of Nishapur was the first guy to apply this method of extracting rose petals smell/ smells which couldnt be extracted on their own from sandalwood. If this is true than attar is not indian but persian. The name already suggests its persian origin. One attar which is famous originating from india is mitti attar, but i think mitti attar is first attested in the ninteenth century.

Sushruta samhita 400 AD? explains the henna was used in expensive ointment including one called Angarage which was reserved for the royal useangarage also contained sandalwood and was used as all over body perfume and offering to krshnapeople of india would wear perfume according to what season it was as well.jasmine was traditionally used in spring while henna was used in winter.

Henna's Secret History: The History Mystery and Folklore of Henna

Indians seem to be already using sandalwood as a base to extract essense of flowers like jasmine and henna but persians used the method to extract rose essense.

Gandhadravya

“Of all the senses”, writes Dr. McKenzie in his Study of Smells “none surely is so mysterious as that of smell … the nature ... the emanations that stir it to activity is still unknown … its effects upon the psyche are both wide and deep, at once obvious and subtle.” 8.1.Understanding Attars and Gandhadravya Gandhasara by Gangadhara gives a glossary devoted to Aromatic ingredients (Gandhadravya) classified into different vargas or class a reference to this has been made earlier. It is reinforced here as Attars in Aromatherapy find a special place based on an understanding of these classifications Leaves-Basil etc. Flowers-Saffron, Champaka. Fruits- Poppy, Nutmeg, Cardemon Barks-Bark of cinnamon tree etc. Woods- Sandal wood Roots - Nagarmotha.Vala, Jatamassi etc. Exudation from plant -- Camphor etc. Organic products- Musk, Honey etc. Leaves-Basil etc. This eight fold classification is the essence of the modern understanding of perfumery which visualizes the effects of essential oils on the individual and is therapeutic . Parts of a plant play a specific role in impacting the individual Flowers  sedating and relaxing Resins and barks  heating and make body fluids move. Leaves  cooling and close to the haemoglobin structure Roots  grounding and help develop confidence Fruits  growth oriented and produce an expanding and stimulating effect.

Exudations  spiritual attainment

Research Report for Historical Study of Attars and essence making in Kannauj

The art of making of ‘attars’ and ‘floral waters’ was well established during the Gupta

period. Kannauj52 became the biggest centre in aromatic trade and has gone down in history as its ruler Harshawardhan for the first time had imposed a tax on vetiver grass (khus). ‘Khus’ probably grew wild as a forest product but had economic value. The seventh century Sanskrit poet Vanabhatta who was the court laureate of King Harsha, has given a vivid description of the use of incense in the marriage ceremony of Rajyashree who was married to King Grahvarman of Kannauj. Huien Tsang mentions trade in aromatics in his travelogues. Bana Bhatts Kadambari and Harsacarita and Hiuen Tsang’s accounts pen a detailed account of the use of scented sandalwood waters. However, the ‘Gandhi-kan’ on the seals that were in use, about 2000 years ago, indicate that the state had recognized the rights of the makers of attars even before Harshawardhan as mentioned earlier. Assam in this period and the preceeding centuries was an important source for sandalwood as is revealed by the gifts sent by the king of Assam to Harsh through Hamsavega53. King Harsha anointed his body with unguents and sandalwood paste before a battle54. The possibility of the link with the Silk Road becomes double fold as Hashshavadhan’s kingdom extended from East to West and the trade in aromatics from Kannauj could have channeled through

Assam and through the Mathura.

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