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isnt austrian-american actually german-american since austria was part of germany till 1945

It is not correct that Austria was a part of Germany, however nowadays Austria was part of the Holy Roman Empire and the German Federation. Until 1945 German Austrians considered themself to be German. After 1945 slowly a own Austrian identity have been created. This is politically motivated. I agree with you, Austrian American as the German Austrian citizens should more correctly be considered German Americans. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sceltaverde (talk • contribs) 09:02, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Austria was only part of Germany during the third Reich. Polish-Americans, Dutch-Americans, etc. aren't German-Americans either. 62.47.183.48 01:03, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Austria was part (rulers) of Holy Roman Empire and of the German Federation, and post WWI Austria called itself German-Austria —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.43.149.150 (talk) 16:17, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Half of Austria wasn't part of the HRE or the German Federation (see Transleithania). "Deutsch-Österreich" was a term for the German speaking part of what was formerly known as Cisleithania (so not the Czech/Croatian/... speaking parts). --Cohiban (talk) 19:18, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Undercount?[edit]

There could be a factor of overcount too, for people who immigrated from other parts of the Austria-Hungary, but were registered as "Austrian".--Pharos (talk) 19:04, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Still a German people[edit]

Austrians are still a German people, as Bavarians and Saxons. In fact, after WWI Austria chose for itself the name "German Austria (Deutscheosterreich)" and later was forced by the Allies to drop the "deutsche" part...but whatever the occupation forces said, it is evident Austrians are a German people.--88.18.151.26 (talk) 03:13, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Mistaken for German people? Austrians considered themselves Germans until 1945.--14Adrian (talk) 08:07, 14 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I as an "austrian", I agree with 14Adrian. I would even go further and say that still now austrian is a citizenship and not a nation. Austrian germans share no unique linguistic or cultural peculiarity. For example, the Austro-Bavarian dialects are also spoken in Germany. As a Tyrolian I claim that the Tyrolian culture is closer to the Bavarian culture than to the Viennese culture. The borders between Austria and Germany do clearly not represent cultural or linguistic border. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.17.111.148 (talk) 10:05, 1 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If that´s your conception of the contemporary identity of "Austria", I suppose the profundity of your preoccupation with Austrian culture outside the vicinities of the tyrolean-bavarian border were rather scarce. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.190.73.124 (talk) 00:40, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dubious tag should be removed. They were considered Germans by pretty much the entire world prior to the end of World War 2 because they were Germans. They were simply a large state that did not join the German Empire after unification because they had enough power to stand on their own. However they are no longer considered German by the US census which now lists Austrian as a separate ethnicity and not just country of origin. So the wording is perfectly true now. Alyas Grey : talk 06:04, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(1) The way the term German is being used here is roughly similar to the way one may use the term English regarding i. e. the USA and (the English-speaking part of) Canada, or the USA and Great Britain.

(2) Ask sensitive musicians if there is an audible difference between the ways two of the globe's top symphony orchestras perform a waltz: the Berlin and the Vienna Philharmonic orchestra, and they will tell you there is a fundamentally essential one (both cultivate their own styles of high precision: the Germans in a rather mechanical mode, the Austrians in a more swinging manner).

(3) Of course there are remarkable differences between Austrian dialects, as there are between those spoken in Germany. This makes it hard to define something like an auxiliary accent groups boundary. And yes, 79.17.111.148 is right in one respect: Tyroleans and Bavarians have (a bit) more in common than Tyroleans and Viennese - yet all three of them share much less with e. g. Prussians or East Frisians (who by the way have even more in common with the Anglo-Saxons populating the British Isles) than with each other. So, it is not the least beside the point to see the legendary Weisswurst Equator (roughly, Bavaria's northern border) as a sort of orientation aid. (Whoever disagrees may explain what people in New England have more in common with, say, Texans than with folks in New Brunswick. They don't? Duh. Wouldn't that be an all too comprehensible reason to - if not eliminate - relocate the border between the USA and Canada? No? Tsk, what a complex world.)

194.145.176.133 (talk) 00:06, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

???[edit]

"because the Austrian Empire had also been a melting pot of many cultures and languages. On the other hand, despite the rejection that Austrians feel about the behavior of the Germans, they regard themselves as more tolerant and cosmopolitan than the Germans"

seriously ? that hole paragrapph seams to be highly questionable178.210.114.106 (talk) 18:49, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps ... a list?[edit]

To all who think there already are too many names in the article's infobox: please, rather create a list -- if you regard it too short to save on a separate page, perhaps as a new section -- than deleting the names. I am sure it will be much shorter than the Austrian settlements in the US section, but of remarkable cultural-historical importance.

- 194.145.176.133 (talk) 00:47, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The See also section points to the existing list List of Austrian Americans. Another list is not needed. Hmains (talk) 03:02, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"...of Jewish descent"[edit]

Am I the only one who thinks that the insertions of "of Jewish descent" after selected people is a little bit dogwhistley? ST47 (talk) 18:49, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have repeatedly removed those additions and they keep showing back up in an apparent slow-mo edit war. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 22:20, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]