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Archive 1

Page Vandalism

I reverted the page to the best earlier version I could find to address the vandalism in the last two weeks. The tone of the article still needs to be addressed, but prior to the revert, 90 percent of the article had been removed.

Rascilon 21:55, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Don't Merge

There two different season, they should have two different pages!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.197.251.195 (talk) 06:53, 25 February 2008 (UTC)


Canadian premiere

I saw an advertisement on tv that stated this show will debut on Showcase Diva January 17, 2008. Here is a link to their website for the show. NorthernThunder (talk) 21:54, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Season 1 & 2

Why do people keep adding information to this page about season 2? Season 2 has its own page! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.14.176.93 (talk) 01:07, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Agreed, I don't understand which page we're supposed to adding new info to. Helixweb (talk) 07:41, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Merging

I've copied most of the information from the Season 2 page to the subcategory on the main's show page. Except for the links ... adding all the links would make it look very bloated. Any ideas?Helixweb (talk) 09:35, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Last Names

Who removed season 2 last names? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.82.223.101 (talk) 18:41, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Tone

I haven't read the whole article, but the tone it of the departures section is wholly inappropriate for an encyclopedia. "fell victim"? "maniuplative Kerry"? Please. We aren't a mouthpiece for the show. Just atate why each girl departed without any excitement or biased language. hbdragon88 (talk) 22:42, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

-I didn't see anything wrong with the other ones except on Jodie's departure so I toned that one down a bit and re-worded it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.207.101.156 (talk) 06:26, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

-I just fixed the major grammatical errors from both "Departure" sections. Cactusjump (talk) 23:15, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Season 3 Cast

Stop posting the supposed names of season 3 cast, you have no proof of this, and if you do refrence it because i want to see myself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.97.238.225 (talk) 02:39, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


Added link to article on Sarah Michaels (Bad Girls Club 3) Playboy Pictures Steupz (talk) 18:32, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Seperate Pages

i think each season should have its own page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrodr7 (talk • contribs) 20:10, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

"Ashley Marie"

What is this, That Girl? Are we really supposed to believe the girl's last name is "Marie"? Mike H. Fierce! 14:11, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Grammar?

I don't know where all the various templates are, or I'd just put this on the article itself, but could someone who didn't drop out of middle school please go through and introduce some semblance of English grammar to this article? Thanks. AudiblySilenced (talk) 05:09, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Season four page

I believe that The Bad Girls Club 4 should be created because it's been rated number 1 on Oxygen as the highest viewed show in Oxygen history and also the show has set new goals for views, this season it's self topped all views from every Oxygen show as stated by them. So if I get enough OK from the editors of Wikipedia i'll create the show.

There should be more accuracy and less bias when summarizing the events. For instance, the information about Portia leaving the house is not totally accurate. Natalie did not make fun of Portia's child. In response to Portia's critique about Natalie's "lifestyle," Natalie in turn criticized Portia's lifestyle. Natalie said that Portia should not criticize her lifestyle, because 1) Portia had stated that she did not know who was the father of her child (implying promiscuity), and 2) she felt that Portia was not a good mother, because she should be at home with her child instead of being on the show. Prior to this, Portia had been on the phone trying to talk to her daughter, who did not want to talk to her. It was not clearly stated, but it seemed that Portia's mother was raising the child and the daughter did not have a "bond" with her mother. This made Portia sad. Natalie's comments hit a sore spot for Portia, because Portia probably does not believe she is a good mother and has some degree of guilt about this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tara33s (talk • contribs) 21:06, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Honestly a summary shouldn't be written period. It's all original research. —Mike Allen 22:52, 6 February 2010 (UTC)


Resolved

Done, The Bad Girls Club (season 4) AJona1992 (talk) 12:46, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

What is up with removing the Departure section?

Of course it's needed here. It tells the readers what actually went on in the actual show without leaving them thinking why they left in the first place. I really don't understand why it was removed. Pure nonsense by whoever keeps removing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.62.138.93 (talk) 04:30, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

This is an encyclopedia article, not a blow-by-blow of what happens with the show, and definitely not a fan site. It was all original research of what "we" think happened. Not needed. —Mike Allen 04:47, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Also 'The Ambers' did not "replace" anyone, they were simply in town to tape a pilot of their show and stayed for a few days. —Mike Allen 04:49, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't think I ever said anything about a fan site. And okay then I guess we don't need the episodes page either. Or any of the seasons section. Just a summary on what the shows about? That's what your telling me. I mean just look at other shows' pages on Wikipedia. Like Gossip Girl, ANTM, Glee etc. They all have specific details on all their pages. So why shouldn't this one? Even Glee and The OC have their own page for EACH episode. Again, I don't understand why this page had to be changed. Also, how can you be so sure that Flo and Natalie weren't replaced? Both Amber's are the new roommates for the remainder of the season. As well was Lexie when Portia left the show.

I removed all the unnecessary verbiage about why the girls were kicked out of the house. If you can write them in a neutral point of view, then add them. They were not and have never been in a neutral point of view and people just keep adding their interpretation of why a certain girl was kicked out (adding their point of view). Also see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXIST. That's not a valid excuse. Do you have a source that The Ambers are the new roommates, they were not in the preview next episode, and they said they were staying a "couple of days". They aren't replacements. Just like when Tanisha visited last season. Thanks. —Mike Allen 07:06, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Tanisha never spent the night at the bad girls house last season. Tanisha didn't go out to clubs with the girls. Tanisha never picked any side, or got into the pool etc. Tanisha didn't break up any fights. Tanisha didn't have her and her name come up as if she were an original cast member for that season just like the Ambers were. And in the Amber Alert episode Kate and Kendra said the Ambers were the new roommates. Then the Ambers confirmed it in the confessional. And you do know theirs only 1 episode left until the season finale right? Which is next week. So I'm pretty sure a "couple of days" would've passed already. It's not like each episode is based on a certain week. Also, it's the same thing with the other show's pages. And actually everything was fine with the departure section. No complaints. Nothing at all. Until you decided to remove it which created all this fuss. Like I said now no one will know why a certain someone left the show. And the point of views written before were great. It was the exact same way I saw it as. If their was something wrong, people would complain. Now their is something wrong, because very important details are now missing from this page. Also where did your ever hear that the Ambers were guest starring? They were never listed a guest starring anywhere. That might be what you think they are as long as their on the show, but this page needs sources then if your sure about that. Theirs no need for any excuses for that. Same thing goes with Tanisha from last season. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.62.138.93 (talk) 08:43, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

I think the departure section should be brought back. Having a departure section doesn't really make it a fansite. It is useful information, if I was someone that had just heard of The Bad Girls Club I would have to ask "Okay why did Ripsi leave? Why did Lyric leave? Why did Kayla leave? Why did Florina leave?" there would be so many holes that it isn't providing all the information that a site like Wikipedia prides itself on giving. Departure section doesn't make it a fan site and does not make it not nuetral. Just stating the bad girls are gone doesn't give reasons why, which someone would ask. Think if Wikipedia was not on the internet and was a book, as I would be reading the book I would be so pissed why the book did not mention why they left if I did not already know. I think it should be brought to a vote to see the outcome. I vote Yes. SashaJohn 22:45 3 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.55.193.47 (talk)

They were all simply kicked out because of physical violence of one another. Like I said if you can write it in a neutral point of view, then put it back, otherwise it only hurts the article. The pictures were removed because an article is not supposed to use that many non-free images. —Mike Allen 07:20, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Yea um sorry MikeAllen I don't agree with you either. The departure section should really be put back. It helped me a lot when I was trying to catch up on the previous seasons. Sure, they were kicked off because off physical violence, but not ALL were. Some of the girls decided to leave by choice. Just because the show is called 'The Bad Girls Club' doesn't mean whoever left, left because of a fight. Now no one will no why that one girl left the show. Instead of looking it up on Wikipedia, a site that helps people get the information they need, will have to look it up the old fashion way. By spending minutes even hours browsing through the internet looking for answers that use to be provided here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 5teevee5 (talk • contribs) 02:13, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm going to say this again: Write it in a neutral point of view. Thank you. —Mike Allen 06:15, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Not trying to be rude or anything, but who made you in charge of what stays or what go's on this page? I thought it had to be discussed first, before we decided to officially remove something off the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.62.138.93 (talk) 16:38, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Not when it goes against policy (WP:NPOV). —Mike Allen 21:36, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Yea, but that doesn't give you the right to remove the "departure section" because you feel like it. The pictures I understand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 5teevee5 (talk • contribs) 02:10, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

It can be allowed if you write it in a neutral tone. If you would like to help re write the Early departures to a more neutral tone (not adding your opinion on what happened), then I will help. Edit warring will get you no where, but blocked. The main reason I removed them, is because it is subject to abuse. Fans adding their personal account of the events that took place. Surely you understand that is not good for the encyclopedia? Also please quit adding the yet to be confirmed show "I Run LA" and adding 5 seasons to the infobox, when only 4 seasons have aired. You don't add that until that season begins airing. —Mike Allen 02:36, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. But I guess you added everything already, so whats left for us to do? By the way I never added the "I run LA" into the article. Someone did before, and I just copied the entire article again. I had no idea that was there until you mentioned it. My apologies. Same thing with adding the season 5 part as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 5teevee5 (talk • contribs) 06:33, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Do you think it's valid to say that Ambers were the "replacement girls"? Are they even in the season finale? —Mike Allen 06:48, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Pictures

Does anyone know why the pictures of The Girl's were removed? SashaJohn 22:53 3 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.55.193.47 (talk)

Due to wikipeida's policy with "non-free" images, all of those pictures are now deleted. But if you have a free image you can upload them at commons. AJona1992 (talk) 12:48, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Can this page be protected?

To prevent people from removing the "departure section", the photos and other information that this article needs. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 5teevee5 (talk • contribs) 03:54, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes it was protected, but now the page has been available again. Until administrators see heavy vandalism to the page then the article will be protected again. The "departure section" is now available on the separate articles of each of the Bad Girls Club seasons. The photos are consistently being deleted due to wikiepedia's policy about non-free images. All other information for the Bad Girls Club can be seen on their own pages, not on this article. AJona1992 (talk) 12:52, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Kate

Shouldn't Kate have an (Episode 1-14) next to her name? She was only on episode 14 for the first five minutes and the way it is now makes it seem like she lasted the whole season. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.73.108 (talk) 22:44, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Not Done, this page does not, now, include sections about the seasons. Please check The Bad Girls Club (season 4) page for further details regarding that season, thank you AJona1992 (talk) 12:57, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism

Some Ghetto vandal made a major vandalism to season three, could someone clean it up? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SashaJohn (talk • contribs) 00:05, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

It's all been reverted. This article attracts them horribly. Thanks for getting it protected for two weeks, it seems when I request protection it's only for two days. Sigh. —Mike Allen 00:33, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
Mike, again, your comments! "This article attracts them horribly" like wtf? are you racist? because I see your comments regarding African American/Black people, and it's not cool to be saying those kind of comments. Can you please leave your own comments to yourself thank you AJona1992 (talk) 12:56, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
What in the hell are you talking about? I did not say anything about it being black people that vandalize the page. This article attracts VANDALS period. Please stop your accusations. Mike Allen 04:09, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Dude that's all you got to say AJona1992 (talk) 22:08, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

the cast

What happened to the list of names? Put it back! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.78.233.99 (talk) 04:42, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

All season's has its own page. Check out the "Airing of the show". AJona1992 (talk) 16:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Removed spin-offs

On this article article I removed "The Amber Show". It's not a real show or spin-off. I removed "I Run L.A.", even though Natalie has said it's coming (it's not here yet) we need to wait for a press release confirming it. I removed "Go With the Flo" and added the real show, titled Bad Girls Club: Flo Gets Married. Maybe Go With the Flo will air in the future, but we can't go by her website (she's not in control of production). Thanks for understanding Wikipedia's policy. —Mike Allen 00:37, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Agreed, and sorry for that mess, should've double checked with verifiability. AJona1992 (talk) 01:47, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Television sets?

The article currently states "the girls are given either a laptop or a big screen TV that features a home computer" but then two paragraphs later it says "In no season of the Bad Girls Club are the contestants given a televsion set." Which is true? Do any of them get television sets, or not? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 14:20, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Fixed. AJona1992 (talk) 20:30, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Formats section

I have cleaned up and fixed grammatical errors that were arising. If there are anymore please advise me here so they can be fixed asap. If there aren't anymore, please state here and I'll remove the contradict template. AJona1992 (talk) 22:14, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

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I shall be reviewing this article against the Good Article criteria, following its nomination for Good Article status.

Disambiguations:None found, but I note that in Airings and locations the wikilink to Season 7 points back at this article. Jezhotwells (talk) 16:06, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Linkrot: none found. Jezhotwells (talk) 16:06, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

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  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
    Organisation: The "U.S. television ratings" section contains information already in the preceding "Airings and locations of the show" section, so I suggest merging these to avoid duplication.
    There are a lot of very short sections, such as ""Bad Girls"", "List of episodes", "Merchandise", "Other media" which are unnecessary and should be merged into other sections.
    There is no "Reception" section.
    The prose is poor, e.g. The show was created by Jonathan Murray and is produced by Bunim/Murray Productions (the same company that produces the reality series The Real World). , During the premiere of Bad Girls Club Miami recorded a record high view of 1.34 million viewers, the series went to break the "biggest premiere" ever in Oxygen history, according to Nielsen Media Research, until the debut of season six, which broke all previous records of Oxygen and the Bad Girls Club franchise, across all key demos, On August 3, 2010, during the OxygenLive TV recap episode, re-imagined live television experience that, for the first time, combined social medias Facebook and Twitter with program content, which allowed fans of the show to submit their own opinions and comments about the show and the seven "bad girls" which were aired on television during the 10 p.m hour, The live show was introduced for the first time during the debut of season 6 to dish out gossip, rumors, confessions, and expressions that some "bad girls" of season six or "all-stars", during a particular episode, While there, a random guy offered to buy drinks for the two ladies. While doing so, the guy added PCP hypnotic sleeping pills which made Kristen to be intoxicated. are examples.
    The article needs to be re-written and organised in a correct encyclopaedic tone.
    There are a number of single sentences which need consolidating into paragraphs.
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
    Citation needed tag needs addressing.
    Forums such as {http://www.oxygenlive.com/} are not RS
    The IMDb episode link in ref #33 is a dead link
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
    As mentioned above a "Reception section" is needed. Also more information about the participants, the aim of the shows, is there a winner in each season?, are girls voted out, etc.
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
    Quiet a lot of Ip edits, but swiftly reverted by article maintainers.
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
    The captions are semi-literate. The picture of the Hollywood sign is not particularly useful.
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:
    This is a long way from meeting the WP:GACR criteria at this time. I have pointed out serious issues above. I suggest that you take a look at other articles on TV reality shows (The X Factor (UK), American Idol), which have had some form of assessment for ideas on organisation, then get the results copy-edited, submit for peer review before renomination. Jezhotwells (talk) 16:40, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Will Bad Girls Club Seasons be released on DVD?

Any news on whether this TV Show will be available on DVD in the future?134.159.111.98 (talk) 08:44, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a Chrystal ball. If that information is not, already, present in this article and you happened to find a reliable source, then please add that information here, otherwise, please only address comments that you may have to better this article. Thanks, AJona1992 (talk) 01:52, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Proposed merger to Bad Girls Club#Participants

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 – AJona1992 (talk) 15:01, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

I mistakenly created the article to help build it to FA-list articles similar to List of Big Brother (U.S.) HouseGuests and List of Survivor (U.S. TV series) contestants, however, I see a lot of abuse on this article varying from WP:COLORBLIND, WP:3RR, WP:FANSITE, WP:VANDAL, WP:BLP and unreliable sources, just to name a few. Awhile ago, User:MikeAllen proposed deletion but it was subsequently closed because of lack of consensus. The article attracts a lot of vandalizing IPs, the article has been semi protected several times, with no hope after it was unblocked. I tried cleaning up the mess every time but it was also reverted and removed from IPs, I give up on this article, I don't see any chances of it being WP:FLA. Above all, I believe this article shows no notability what so ever. I propose merge to the main article and sometime I'll try and fix that empty section, as well I'm still going through the review page of the article. Thanks, AJona1992 (talk) 00:13, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

I still agree. I also just moved all the episodes from the separate episode articles to the main season articles. Something that should have never been done in the first place. Way too much unnecessary content forking going on for The Bad Girls Club. The Real World does not have that many separate pages. This page is just another example and should not exist. —Mike Allen 22:56, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Yes, a merger seems good. The Bad Girls Club article is rather small, so there is no reason to have this list in a separate article. --Noleander (talk) 21:57, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
Mike, do you mind doing the same for List of Love Games: Bad Girls Need Love Too participants and their episodes? I have no idea why those were created. Thanks, AJona1992 (talk) 08:20, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
You can simply go ahead and do the merge; it's not likely to be controversial. WP:MERGE has instructions. If you need help, go to WP:HELPDESK. Itsmejudith (talk) 13:52, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Comments (pre-expansion)

I am currently expanding the article to meet the WP:GA criteria. While I am expanding the article, please do not edit the article until the {{underconstruction}} tag has been removed. The only concern (so far) are the "Cast members" section; which is something that is very controversial as many IPs vandalize that section/article. Is it necessary to have so many color codes for the number of participants? Can we agree to remove/ban color codes for the table? Also the fact that a "bad girl"' "status in the show" and weather or not a replacement followed is WP:OR and I'll remove that. Thanks, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 20:30, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

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Since nobody said anything, I went ahead and changed the format of that section. Cheers, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 18:02, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Season 2 had the first replacement voluntarily leave not season 5! Her name was Andrea...comm'on guys. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.94.93.78 (talk) 19:51, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

And where does that statement appears on this article? Thanks, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 14:00, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Actually Season 1 had the first girl voluntarilly leave, Leslie and Jodie both left the house. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.188.203.251 (talk) 07:21, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

I said replacement, not original. Idiot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.94.93.78 (talk) 23:47, 16 January 2012 (UTC)


GOCE copy edit December 2011

Format section

"In most cases, the replacement is treated reprehensible". Does this mean they were treated badly, or treated as if they were bad? --Stfg (talk) 17:49, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Treated badly. Best, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 17:54, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
Done. Thanks. --Stfg (talk) 09:57, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

"Cheyenne Evans was exempted from[clarification needed] the show by Tiara Hodge". Was she excused from the show, or expelled from it? --Stfg (talk) 17:49, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Hodge kicked Evans out of the house by placing Evans bags on her bed (this symbolizes that its time to go home by a producer, however, Hodge did this and Evans thought it truly was time to go). Evans left and Hodge confirmed to the other girls in the house that she planned the whole thing. Best, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 17:54, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
How nice! :)) Done, thanks. --Stfg (talk) 09:57, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Seasons 1 and 2

"allowing viewers to unfold a physical altercation". I don't understand this phrase. The problem may be with the word "unfold". --Stfg (talk) 17:49, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Prob, the sentence is supposed to say that it allowed viewers to see the earliest physical altercation between two cast members and then transitioning back to an earlier period in the show. Best, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 17:54, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
OK, I think I've got it right now. Please would you check. --Stfg (talk) 09:57, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
It looks better now :-) I'll re-read the article (up until the section you have worked on) and reply with comments, if needed. Best, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 12:43, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

(←) Paragraph 1 says age range 21-31 but paragraph 3 says max age dropped from 35. This may be correct (age limit in rules vs. oldest that actually took part), but it may confuse some readers. Was the age limit actually as high as 35? --Stfg (talk) 14:43, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes, however, there weren't any cast members who were that age. The age range was for the cast members in Season 1. Hope this clarifies, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 15:09, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Comments

These are what I found while reading;

  • "stability of being interdependent with others" (Seasons 1 and 2)
    Is "interdependent" correct? Is what I meant, I thought it was written wrong. Sorry, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 14:43, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
    Yes, it's fine. Means that both sides are dependent on each other. Anyway, no woriies -- I like "stabilzing effect" better anyway. --Stfg (talk) 14:50, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
  • "Shortly before end of the reunion" (Controversies - Season 4)
    Is missing a word
    Corrected. --Stfg (talk)
  • "The owner said that he will not allow this type of production to rent his home in future" (Same section - Season 6)
    Same as above
    Is "in future" just British English? If you prefer "in the future", that would be fine. --Stfg (talk) 14:50, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
    Well I'm American ;-) I would like to take the article to FAC so I believe consistency would be that the language should be in American, since I wrote it in American English. Best, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 14:56, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
    Done. (I just didn't know that "in future" was only British). Cheers, --Stfg (talk) 15:12, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
    Thanks :-) Well I thought you told me it was? o___0 Well to me I thought you might have missed a word. Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 15:17, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Best, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 13:56, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Cheers, --Stfg (talk) 14:50, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Love Games: Bad Girls Need Love Too

Para 2: are they actually competing for love, or just seeking it? --Stfg (talk) 15:57, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

  • Both, the girls are seeking love while competing for the guys affection (since there are three girls) during mid-season, one bad girl will be voted out by the guys. Hope I explained it :-)

Para 3: I haven't copy edited this, as 5th December is now past and it needs updating. --Stfg (talk) 15:57, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Bad Girls Club: Flo Gets Married

Neither of the sources appear to mention the pregnancy. Also, the first (FN113) causes McAfee to block content and issue safety warnings when it loads. --Stfg (talk) 17:22, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

FN#113 works fine here. This source verifies the show, not the date of which it was aired. This source I believe is un-reliable because it is a blog from the channel that produced the show. Can a Template:Cite episode work instead? Best, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 17:39, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I think so. --Stfg (talk) 17:50, 19 December 2011 (UTC)


Kerry Harvick

In the show description at the top of the page, it said Kerry became a successful music artist after the show. It is incorrect because her only single came out before the first season of bad girls. Her album was not released and she was dropped from the label, before she was casted as a bag girl. So someone should delete that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.188.203.251 (talk) 07:29, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Do you have a reliable source for verification? Best, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 20:40, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Citation 3 from the main page states that her first single was released in 2004. That would be 2 years before she appeared on The Bad Girls Club. The wiki page about Kerry says it was her only single to make it to the Billboard charts (although billboard.com says otherwise, that Kerry has yet to chart). Annuuuhhhh (talk) 01:49, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
 Fixed for past-tense tone. Though I'm not sure that now it is relevant. Best, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 19:02, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Labelling people as porn stars

Please people read WP:BLP. These are real people and Wikipedia can and does affect them. If you are going to say anything that's derogatory, or label them, you must follow our BLP policy and in this case you need sources that are firmly reliable. Dougweller (talk) 09:46, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

They are labeled as such per the sources. Do you think I should remove all "occupation" and just list them? Best, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 19:03, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Season 8

Ep 6 sneak peek showed gia nude uncensored. Is a huge controversey. Should be edited on Season 8 Controversies — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.128.12.29 (talk) 23:52, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Source? any WP:RS that states that it was in any violation of the channel's code of conduct? Best, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 19:04, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

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Reviewer: Jezhotwells (talk) 15:55, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

I shall be reviewing this article against the Good Article criteria, following its nomination for Good Article status.

Disambiguations:None found, but I note that in Airings and locations the wikilink to Season 7 points back at this article. Jezhotwells (talk) 16:06, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Linkrot: none found. Jezhotwells (talk) 16:06, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Checking against GA criteria

GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
    Organisation: The "U.S. television ratings" section contains information already in the preceding "Airings and locations of the show" section, so I suggest merging these to avoid duplication.
    There are a lot of very short sections, such as ""Bad Girls"", "List of episodes", "Merchandise", "Other media" which are unnecessary and should be merged into other sections.
    There is no "Reception" section.
    The prose is poor, e.g. The show was created by Jonathan Murray and is produced by Bunim/Murray Productions (the same company that produces the reality series The Real World). , During the premiere of Bad Girls Club Miami recorded a record high view of 1.34 million viewers, the series went to break the "biggest premiere" ever in Oxygen history, according to Nielsen Media Research, until the debut of season six, which broke all previous records of Oxygen and the Bad Girls Club franchise, across all key demos, On August 3, 2010, during the OxygenLive TV recap episode, re-imagined live television experience that, for the first time, combined social medias Facebook and Twitter with program content, which allowed fans of the show to submit their own opinions and comments about the show and the seven "bad girls" which were aired on television during the 10 p.m hour, The live show was introduced for the first time during the debut of season 6 to dish out gossip, rumors, confessions, and expressions that some "bad girls" of season six or "all-stars", during a particular episode, While there, a random guy offered to buy drinks for the two ladies. While doing so, the guy added PCP hypnotic sleeping pills which made Kristen to be intoxicated. are examples.
    The article needs to be re-written and organised in a correct encyclopaedic tone.
    There are a number of single sentences which need consolidating into paragraphs.
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
    Citation needed tag needs addressing.
    Forums such as {http://www.oxygenlive.com/} are not RS
    The IMDb episode link in ref #33 is a dead link
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
    As mentioned above a "Reception section" is needed. Also more information about the participants, the aim of the shows, is there a winner in each season?, are girls voted out, etc.
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
    Quiet a lot of Ip edits, but swiftly reverted by article maintainers.
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
    The captions are semi-literate. The picture of the Hollywood sign is not particularly useful.
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:
    This is a long way from meeting the WP:GACR criteria at this time. I have pointed out serious issues above. I suggest that you take a look at other articles on TV reality shows (The X Factor (UK), American Idol), which have had some form of assessment for ideas on organisation, then get the results copy-edited, submit for peer review before renomination. Jezhotwells (talk) 16:40, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 11 April 2012

...Multiple copies of entire table removed...

69.108.119.178 (talk) 01:13, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Not done: Please just detail the change you wish to make and provide reliable sources for any factual changes. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 05:43, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

This page should be semi-protected.

This page should be semi-protected. People keep changing the cast members. Ashley Dye (talk) 16:10, 28 May 2012 (UTC) Ashley Dye

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