Talk:Barbara Ibrahim

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I'm interested in starting a discussion on how I can improve this article and address the issues in it that were brought up in the tag. Here are my comments/questions about the tags:

1. This article was tagged because it was said to rely on primary sources or sources affiliated with the subject rather than references from independent authors or third-party publications. I disagree with this. Both of the references are from sources/institutions independent from the author (CNN and University of California of Davis, specifically). Please help me understand what is not secondary about these sources and what other sources I would need. I feel like these articles suffice to establish the notability of the author.

2. Second was the criticism that this article reads like a reflection or essay rather than an encyclopedic entry. I read the article several times and do not understand how the person who made this remark came to this conclusion, and therefore I disagree with it. i find the language is straightforward and fact-based. Please let me know specifically what you think needs to be changed about the tone and wording of this article.

3. Third was the criticism that the notability of this subject is in question. This related to point one. I feel that both the secondary sources cited as references establish notability. Barbara Ibrahim is not only an important Sociologist and innovator in the field of Philanthropy in the Middle East in her own right, but she's also the wife of famous Egyptian Political Dissident Saad Ed Din Ibrahim who was arrested for publicly criticizing the former president Mubarak. She was very actively involved in fighting for justice on his behalf and on the behalf of other human rights victims of the Egyptian regime. I'll go ahead and try to find another article that cites this, but I think what is up there as references suffices to establish notability. If you disagree, please suggest how many more secondary resources need to be added.

4. Fourth is the suggestion that more articles be linked to this page. There are already nine external articles linked to this page, which is more than other, longer biographical Wikipedia articles. I'd like to know what the minimum is. In any case, I'll try to go ahead and add more links.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on how we can improve this article so that it is no longer at risk of being removed.

Masriyya (talk) 00:47, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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