Talk:Barbara Zitwer

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Notability[edit]

I've added the notability tag, since this as it stands seems to not meet the general notability guidline which requires non-trivial coverage in multiple independant reliable sources.

The refs at the moment are:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0957297/ - imdb is not a reliable source in many instances as it relies on user submitted content. That aside this is non-trivial coverage as basically a directory style listing/
http://webdelsol.com/Algonkian/interview-bj.htm - As an interview this is essentially a primary source it lacks the independence requirement to one degree or another, although it maybe useful as a source for the article it wouldn't hold up as the sole source for meeting WP:GNG
http://www.free-press-release.com/news/200611/1162662872.html - This is not a reliable source as it is user submitted content and so has no editorial control. That aside it isn't anything more than trivial coverage on Barbara Zitwer.
http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/379245/The-Friday-Night-Knitting-Club/overview - Very sparse, about the film and the only mention of Barbara Zitwer is a credit as exec producer - again trivial coverage.
http://www.publishersmarketplace.com/members/alicea/ - Not independant, and trivial in coverage of Zitwer (it's about the agency)
http://www.barbarajzitweragency.com - Not independant

--82.7.40.7 (talk) 21:30, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A quick google news search shows the subject is certainly notable, however better sources are definitely needed. Lots of different trivial content can add up to notability :) --Insider201283 (talk) 18:51, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Needs plenty of clean up but notability is no longer the concern. Removing tag.Cptnono (talk) 23:09, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And a very poor move, I'm not going to get in a silly battle about this, and as I've already said I'd made my last comment elsewhere I'm one beyone that. There is still nothing which meets the general notability guidline's requirement of "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject..." with signicant coverage meaning ""Significant coverage" means that sources address the subject directly in detail...". I certainly haven't said the sources weren't good enough to meet WP:V so adding 3 sources to verify producer of film X, is meaningless and actually makes the article worse. What I have said is that there is nothing which is actually about the subject. The notability guidline isn't that being producer of popular films starring notable actors makes someone notable, so proving that 10 times is not helpful. Referencing an article in a reliable source where someone has written about Zitwer is. --82.7.40.7 (talk) 07:59, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Then stop leaving messages if you don't want to discuss it. She is noble the article is just garbage.Cptnono (talk) 08:18, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]