Talk:Batalhão de Operações Policiais Especiais

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This article is WRONG, BOPE is not only in RJ. There is BOPE in Brasília also, and in São José and in many other cities. Please, mark this article for a complete revision.

THE ABOVE STATEMENT IS RIGHT. I it is right that the first BOPE was created in Rio de Janeiro, but the Distrito Federal (Brasília) also has one, as well as other states. This needs to be updated --Pinnecco (talk) 12:07, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To picture this erroneous association of BOPE with Rio de Janeiro State only, the current logo is from some other brazilian BOPE, not the carioca one.--201.19.47.49 (talk) 21:02, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

--- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.14.80.218 (talk) 16:51, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

THE BOPE, the famous battalion, is the BOPE-PMRJ (PMRJ being 'rio de janeiro military police). there may be other BOPEs. --189.12.151.216 02:54, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You Guys are Saying this because you don't depend on BOPE in an almost daily basis to save your 1st world asses —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.74.64.56 (talkcontribs)

Read WP:NPOV.--Dali-Llama 02:28, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In the last sentense of the first paragraph, it says "with an average of 200 criminals killed per year." There needs to be a very clear citation to prove that the people killed were indeed criminals, like proof from a court of law, otherwise this should just read "with an average of 200 people killed per year." there are two citations, but they are both in Portuguese and this is the English page. Since the first citation says "mata 200 pessoas por ano", I changed the word 'criminals' to 'people'. --eighthave (talk) 17:32, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Photos of BOPE operators[edit]

None of those carbines look like M4s to me. Also, it should say "M16 is the main weapon of BOPE". The AR15 is a semi-automatic civilian sporting rifle. Spartan198 (talk) 15:14, 19 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The BOPE main weapon today is the 7,62 FAL. you can se pictures in google. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.69.8.17 (talk) 06:40, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

POV[edit]

This article is full of poor grammar, hyperbole and NPOV. Please correct these issues before seeding links to the page on other tactical force pages. MKV 04:18, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

--- There are no hyperboles in the article... But you should help with the grammar. --Levy 14:15, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There are three very obvious examples of hyperbole: "BOPE is considered the best tactical police team in the world when the matter is urban warfare" (uncited), "The international interest for BOPE is the recognition of BOPE as the best troop of urban combat in the world. That is what demonstrates a documentary named “Wardogs”, produced by a foreign TV station." (Youtube is hardly a valid reference), and "In 2005 a United States National Guard member, Bain Serna, spent 5 weeks with BOPE team in Rio de Janeiro and revealed in an interview to a Texan newspaper he considered it the best urban combat unit in the world. "Our troops in Iraq should learn with Bope" (uncited). Not very impressive. Nick Cooper 13:06, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I tried to remedy some of these issues by editing for NPOV, removing unsourced comments and removing some redundant statemtns.--Dali-Llama 02:27, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Cleanup looks good. MKV 02:13, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's still full of bullshit, can someone make it NPOV? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.80.125.120 (talk) 10:10, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, even the introductory sentence falls for it: "...is the elite special forces unit in the Military Police...". Is it somehow warranted to say that they are ELITE special forces? Aren't most of the special forces in some ways also elite troops by definition? It's like saying that Batalhao des Operacoes Policiais Especiais is the top-notch ass-kicking super-hyper elite cream of the crop commando special forces unit in the Military Police although simple "special forces" goes just fine. Sadly, the same applies almost to every "special forces" article in Wikipedia. JJohannes (talk) 12:21, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Movie[edit]

There should be references to the movie "Tropa de Elite: BOPE" since this movie is about an event with BOPE in Rio de Janeiro. IMDb --Skippern 21:00, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is a reference to the movie, but the reference begins by discussing the book on which the movie was based. It's a question of precedence.--Dali-Llama 19:02, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Popular Support[edit]

I removed this paragraph since it is combative in tone and completely uncited. That said, there should be something about popular support of the BOPE since it seems that many people are very supportive of the BOPE.

"Obviously, those who criticize BOPE actions have never set foot on a favela before and, therefore, have a limited point of view on the subject. It is also important to notice the strong support received by BOPE and the military police actions from the entire population, except of course by the small portion whose relatives are criminals (and the criminals theirselves)."

--eighthave (talk) 17:08, 16 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:BOPELOGO.gif[edit]

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Rationale added.--Dali-Llama 22:26, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So in NPOV a death squad becomes jst another police special forces team? It is a shame that the fact that in Brazil death squads are not illegal but official is not part of the matter. In the rest of Latin America these death squads are at least to some extent illegal although often supported or tolerated by the government. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.202.255.201 (talk) 09:36, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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BOPE in Crossfire[edit]

The section on the BOPE in the game crossfire seems to have questionable grammar and potentially incorrect information, it is not a playable character but rather an organization that some characters in the game belong to (not sure how many). It seems (at least currently) that BOPE is currently known as OPES in the game, http://crossfire.z8games.com/characters.html . I am also not entirely certain as to what the sentence " It is also the first Brazilian character to be featured into the game, starting from CrossFire Brazil." is referring to, however it doesn't quite make sense. Was bope introduced when crossfire brazil was released? And are there other brazilian operators as the sentence seems to indicate? I could not find reference to any. Isaac868 (talk) 17:51, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]