Talk:Battle of Camarón

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I think the name used should be spelled "Cameron". This is how it is spelled in French, where English versions also trace their spelling. The name can be retained as "Camarón" in Spanish articles. Same places having different names in different languages is common (such as London -> Londres, The Hague -> Den Haag, Torino -> Turin etc.). As the importance of the name and event associates directly with the French Foreign Legion, and as such French history, the name used should in my opinion retain it's French form, at least in English and French. What do you think? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:999:20:A921:71D4:20B5:E070:E8A6 (talk) 10:16, 29 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled[edit]

At the start of the article is says over two thousand Mexican soldiers, the channel 4 article also says this but the middle of the article says "a Mexican Army force of 1,600 soldiers (600 cavalry & 1,000 infantry)" and the French Foreign Legion article says over a thousand men not two thousand. Obviously both the article should stick to one estimate of the troop value. What should be done about this? Catzdan 18:56, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello guys. Last week I went for the 185 ceebration of the battle in Camaron Mexico. Yes, its spelled Camaron, not Cameron, a comon mistake. I talked to an elderly man, who kept all the detaills of the battle from generation to generation, here is what I foun out:

-The mexicans were apparently 600+ , as like the old man told me, it was imposible to rally 2000 man in such quik time in those times.

-They were taken coffe when the legion was attacked.

-Apparently, since the legion never surrenders, they faught to death, but, one man (who later told the story)"played dead" and was taking along with all the wounded to another hacienda, were some old lady took care of them. He then left and told the story.

Thats what the old man told me :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adrien Chatillon (talk • contribs)

Capitaine Danjou[edit]

The article says that Capitaine Danjou took command because there were no other officers, then goes on to list the other two officers. Is this a disconnect? Did he bring them with him or were there two officers there but he took command anyway? CsikosLo (talk) 16:20, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

--->He took command because he was a Capitaine, and the other officers were Sous-lieutenant, unfit to command a company. Unless there is no other choice of course. The two Sous-lieutenant took the role of "chef de section". Freemanz —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.233.132.95 (talk) 14:06, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Casualties[edit]

I lack the expertise to meddle with this article, but much of its content seems too legendary to be fully believed, and it's hard to feel confidence in an article like this when a little web searching turns up a roster of the French participants in the battle in which the casualty figures are widely at variance with the info offered here. Wikipedia claims that out of 65 men, 59 were killed, 3 taken prisoner, and 3 wounded men escaped by pretending to be dead. The roster at http://www.lalegionetrangere.fr/compagnie_camerone.php , however, says that of 65 men, 31 were killed in action, 9 died later of wounds, 24 were kept as prisoners (17 of whom were wounded), and 1 wounded man named Casimir Lai was left for dead but later recovered. That's quite a discrepancy.... 69.227.126.47 19:48, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The French casualties fail to add up - 43 killed and 19 captured accounts for 62 personnel but there were 62 enlisted and three officers. Perhaps, as was noted back in 2007, we should accept the Foreign Legion's own numbers of 31 killed in action, 9 later dying of wounds, 24 captured and 1 evaded both death and capture.DavisGL (talk) 20:03, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The page in French about French troops and casualties says 31 dead in combat, 9 dead from wounds, 18 wounded, 24 survivors. I think I saw some Missing In Action in a French book.

The French page about the Legion's Camaron's Speech says 300 Mexicans killed.

The French page about the Battle says 40 French dead and 17 French wounded, out of 62 soldiers before the Battle (maybe the wounded include the 9 dead and survivors) and 1 200 Mexican infantry soldiers.

Spanish Wikipedia says 90 Mexicans killed, 65 French soldiers before the Battle, 43 French casualties (they don't say if it's killed, wounded or MIA).

JFCochin (talk) 22:29, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong mexican forces number[edit]

The number of mexican soldiers is just ridiculous and of course their casualities to, i corrected them but i wasnt able to add correctly my references, so help with that would be apprecieted 2806:102E:16:2D66:44C8:F777:FDAD:6651 (talk) 21:06, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]