Talk:Bechdel test

Fire Island

A paragraph about a Twitter shitstorm relating to the film Fire Island has been added to the "Criticism" section by InEventOf. In my view, this is inappropriate. We are an encyclopedia, not a social media gossip website, and not everything that happens on Twitter related to an article subject and is covered by media merits a mention in the article. See WP:NOTNEWS. What do others think? Sandstein 15:01, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

This event received a TON of media coverage, though. Also, she supposedly changed the Bechdel test in response. I'm not sure it matters if the source of the event was on Twitter, as opposed to anything else. I'm not sure if the criticism section is the right place, though it might be, but this certainly warrants inclusion in my view. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 15:36, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Regarding this, I'm not sure that everybody will get that Bechdel made fun of the controversy by adding a ridiculous corollary. And additionally, I don't know whether the joke should be mentioned in an encyclopedia (and whether that should be done in article or in the sources) or whether the reasoning and conclusion should be stated. 94.217.102.221 (talk) 00:22, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

This is not a real metric

First off, the heading could be conceived as inflammatory, but that was absolutely not the intention. English not being my first language and consequently me not being able to find a better title that wasn't a whole sentence or more led to me choosing this. Feel free to remove this and re-add it with something better (and without this paragraph, obviously), but I would ask to not let the clumsy headline colour your opinion of my point. And if my point was brought up before and/or there is nothing more to discuss, might I encourage a note of some kind about that.

The first paragraph states that it is not indicative of representation but indicative of active presence of women. That contradiction (yes, i know these are not synonyms, but they're still contradicting) should be cleared up. But mostly it should be made clear that the "test" is not a sensible test (after all, Showgirls passes and Mulan fails. I think Terminator fails, too, but there I'm not a 100% sure.) and that the origin was a poignant observation turned into a joke. That it is widely seen as a sensible metric is meming and not thinking about the subject (and leaving out this fact in applications of the test is just not... honest, I guess, or conscientious) . Maybe the effort to find a real metric should be mentioned in the beginning, and the difference between a meme and a more sensible metric mentioned (or illustrated by mentioning more sensible metrics inspired by this.).

[edit] Alright, stupid me. After reading more of the article I change my point to the limitations and more sensible alternatives should be mentioned in the first part. I'm leaving all of the above for authenticities sake and maybe there're salient points there, too (and this already has to be redone by someone with a more natural command of the english language, anyway. Thanks in advance). 94.217.102.221 (talk) 00:00, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

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Fyi where I got this information from

^{"However, since 2018, 4 best picture winners have passed the Bechdel test, while the 2019 winner, Green Book did not pass." I don't have a source for this because I compiled this fact up by googling all the Best Picture Winners since 2018, then I went onto the Bechdel test website and searched up if all the films passed or failed.} Varino777 (talk) 17:29, 11 October 2023 (UTC)