Talk:Beef O'Brady's

This page was proposed for deletion by Postcard Cathy (talk · contribs) on 9 April 2009 with the comment:
reason for article has been around for some time and notability has not been established.
It was contested by MuZemike (talk · contribs) on 2009-04-10 with the comment:
Plenty of sources out there to establish notability.

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Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 03:18, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Beef O'Brady's → Beef 'O' Brady's — This is the official spelling of the business. See their website and related pages like Beef 'O' Brady's Bowl --AW (talk) 21:54, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment isn't that decorative punctuation, which is recommended against in MOS:TM ? 65.93.12.65 (talk) 05:35, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Per MOS:TM, we should use standard English text formatting and capitalization rules, regardless of the preference or official spelling of the business or trademark owners. If anything, it should be Beef O'Brady's. Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:53, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Name correction[edit]

According to a majority of the linked sources, the name does seem to have two apostrophes around the O. Only the 2009 mention of the renaming of the Bowl uses a single apostrophe. More recently, Wikipedia's title is the top hit on search results, so may influence how others spell it. Compare Toys "R" Us -- we use both doublequotes, but don't include the stylized reverse R - in part because we can only approximate it in unicode (it's not actually using the cyrillic character). May be worth revisiting the above ^_^ – SJ + 01:00, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 2[edit]

Beef O'Brady's → Beef 'O' Brady's

As above, I propose moving this to the official spelling. The current title, without a space before the B, is definitely wrong; if anything, treating the internal apostrophes as decorative would lead to Beef O Brady's. But the majority of independent sources use 'O', sometimes very explicitly; so we should too (MOS seems to agree, I left a comment there to clarify).

Wikipedia is one of the few outpost on the web that use the current title -- it makes it appear prominently in search results, and leads to inconsistencies here on WP. For instance, our article on the 2010_Beef_'O'_Brady's_Bowl uses the correct title (it was unambiguous), but mentions of it in the body text on Beef 'O' Brady's Bowl (which redirects to the current name, the Gasparilla Bowl) uses the WP spelling in the text, even though the citations all use the original spelling.

Support as proposer. HT to @Awiseman: for the initial request above. – SJ + 13:52, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support as per the argument above. The apostrophes seem intentional. AW (talk) 02:05, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]