Talk:Behiç Erkin

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Untitled[edit]

Thank you for the copy edit tag. If you could indicate a few points in this talk page on where and how the article can be boosted through copy editing, it will be a pleasure to include them in the body of its text. Cretanforever (talk) 03:40, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am removing the tag if no one is that interested in this article. Cretanforever (talk) 08:22, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the tag. We can put it back if discussion. In any case, it was indicative of the article's still having more leeway for devleopment. I will work on it further. Thanks. Cretanforever (talk) 11:50, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Overall, the article can be improved by a more encyclopedic tone - breaking up some sentences to make them more concise, and avoiding language that is too POV (point of view). I will make some changes. The lead should be more concise, with details of appointments and career in the body of the article below.--Parkwells (talk) 17:10, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Does anyone notice a loss of sense in the present state of the following phrase?:

“Two among the staff, Fatin Rüştü Zorlu and Melih Esenbel, were to become foreign ministers later, the former being hanged at the gallows by the junta after the 1960 military coup d'etat in Turkey, as it was to befall also on a third colleague, Beşir Balcıoğlu, assassinated in Madrid in 1978 by the Justice Commandos Against Armenian Genocide.”

In the context of the present article, I had put the focus on a common tragic end for both, since it seemed interesting to mention that the staff at the consulate in Paris had produced two ministers, it also seemed worth adding that two had met unnatural deaths, but these were not the same two. An article on Fatin Rüştü Zorlu exists, and one on Beşir Balcıoğlu can be written, and a better breathing space may be found there for additions like, hanged at the gallows by the junta after the 1960 military coup d'etat or assassinated by Justice Commandos of these geezers and the terrorists of others (the phrase as it is gives the impression that they had brought ropes and the full frame for Balcıoğlu and Antonio Torres in 1978). Regards. Cretanforever (talk) 17:56, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am reverting to the previous version if no objections. Regards. Cretanforever (talk) 19:18, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Galatasaray Lisesi[edit]

"Turkey's embassy in Paris, where Erkin had arrived only three weeks before the start of the Second World War, was staffed by a handful of officials who nevertheless represented Turkey's administrative and cultural elite, all of them without exception being graduates of Galatasaray Lisesi." Does this mean that Behiç Erkin was a graduate of Galtasaray Lisesi? The aricle should make this clear, and if this is the case, the category "Galatasaray High School alumni" should be added. Coyets (talk) 16:11, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

He graduated from Military Academy but that doesn't prevent his having been in Galatasaray before. Someone with more knowledge should add the alumni part if that is the case. I also suggest finding a formula for putting the birthplace as İstanbul at least for personalities who are as Turkish as it can get. Fevzi Çakmak article uses the expression "he was born in Beykoz, İstanbul", I can find the neighborhood for Erkin as well. Cretanforever (talk) 22:38, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

İstanbul or Constantinople[edit]

Regarding the issue raised as a note above, I asked the question to a user in Turkish wikipedia who is part of a very active group, involved in highly important matters. Since it is a point that moves Turks and especially those with Mustafa Kemal Atatürk sensitivities to the core, there should be a response some time soon (milli olma fırsatı:). To repeat, once the neighborhood is added, use of the name "İstanbul" appears as a must, it would be absurd to write Constantinople, for example after Üsküdar.

my message with the question

response 1

response 2

Turkish and Non-Turkish Jews[edit]

In the Turkish translation, there is written that he saved Turkish and Non-Turkish jews but in the english translation, only the turkish-jews mentioned. which one is the correct information? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.154.117.108 (talk) 07:13, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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"unsubstantiated"[edit]

there is actual evidence that this person has helped, but im not seeing any evidence being shared about how that evidence is getting debunked. and on this guy being a part of armenian genocide is the real unsubstantiated claim, with its only source author not mentioning anything of that sort in the book cited with any actual documentation, but he can be seen pushing actual anti nato propaganda on his public twitter account. are we here to do politics or are we here to spread what information we know that exists and let the users make their own decisions? Zecloid (talk) 21:10, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What actual evidence? Obviously a book authored by his family members, and the Turkish government (his employer), are not wp:independent. If 20,000 people were really saved by erkin, how come none of them came forward and publicly thank him? (t · c) buidhe 00:20, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
except they have done that, actually. the jewish turkish newspaper "şalom" actually does support this "unsubstantiated" claim on their website. Zecloid (talk) 22:10, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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