Talk:Ben Francisco

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography: Sports and Games

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	Sports portal This article is supported by the sports and games work group (assessed as Low-importance).

Baseball: College / Yankees / Phillies Low‑importance

	Baseball portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Baseball, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of baseball on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.BaseballWikipedia:WikiProject BaseballTemplate:WikiProject BaseballBaseball articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject College baseball.
	This article is supported by WikiProject New York Yankees.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Philadelphia Phillies (assessed as Low-importance).

Servite[edit]

"Despite Servite's notorious reputation for kicking out legions of students, Francisco did not suffer the shameful indignity of being "asked to leave" or kicked out, unlike some of his other unfortunate comrades, because he did not have any academic problems or significant disciplinary issues while attending Servite. "

I put that in the Ben Francisco article. I could say that I was at Servite and they really did kick out numerous students. Students are there one year and gone the next (without graduating)! Many of the people who were kicked out were my friends and fellow classmates, and Servite treated them like scum!!!! I was there and witnessed it myself!! 66.214.9.51 (talk)

That's fine, but this information is not worthy of including in an encyclopedic article. First of all, since it is personal information gleaned not from published sources but from experience, it qualifies both as unverifiable and original research, neither of which are included in Wikipedia (remember, it does not matter whether something is true, only if it is verifiable by outside sources.) More importantly, it is trivial biographical material inconsistent with the scope of the article, which focuses on the player's career and most notable personal details only. You may have seen Francisco's performance at Servite first-hand, but unless it relates to his notable biography in another way, which it does not seem to, it is not worthy of inclusion. Please see the manual of style for more on good, verifiable and encyclopedic Wikipedia articles. Colinclarksmith (talk) 19:48, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ben Francisco should be proud that he graduated! It is noteworthy that he didn't get kicked out of that school.