Talk:Ben McPherson

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I have again removed unsupported content, or summaries that do not correctly match the supporting reference. Please do not reinstate unsupported claims without consensus, as peer WP:BLP. Cult of Green (talk) 01:37, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

The creator of the article has reinstated unsupported and unreliable sources. To avoid an edit war I am listing the issues withthe article in the hope that they will be addressed by the creator who appears to have a conflict of interest.

1. IMDB is not a reliable source and shouldn't be used. I have deleted them again.
2. Statements like "By the time he reached high school, he was already working as an artist"are not supported by the reference supplied and should be removed.
3. The sentence "McPherson rose to prominence as a painter of classical realism in his late 20s" is not supported and does not maintain a neutal point of view. It should be removed to comply with [WP:BLP]].
4. McPherson began to develop television programming in 2009 is not supported with a reliable source.
5. vague words and phrases such "eventually" or "began to develop" should be avoided. Cult of Green (talk) 03:24, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Creator Response

1. You didn't delete the IMDB source "again" as this last pass was the first time I had attempted to cite to it. I was not aware that IMDB is considered an unreliable source.

My mistake. User-edited sites are generally not reliable sources. Cult of Green (talk) 04:02, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

I was able to find a credit sheet published online by Nat Geo that lists McPherson as "Development Producer" but I cannot find a way to upload it to wikipedia. I linked to the show's page on the nat geo sales page. If IMDB is not option, what can I cite to? Can I upload a screenshot of the credit? Sam Tyler 10 (talk) 00:11, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

2. "By the time he reached high school, he was already working as an artist" is supported by the reference supplied. The reference states: "McPherson said that one of his high school teachers helped arrange small commissions for him during the summers. 'I did a little portrait work,' he said. 'I got a chance to work as an artist long before most people do.'" A couple of paragraphs later, the article refers to a mural McPherson was commissioned to paint by Lola Brown. It then states that the project went so well that McPherson returned to Brown "years later -- after finishing high school." Those two statements substantiate the statement that McPherson was working as an artist by the time he reached high school.

By the time he reached high school is vague. Did he start while at high school or before? Cult of Green (talk) 04:02, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

4. The vague term "eventually" is a direct quote from the cited source.

that is fine but we need to be more specific in an encyclopedic article Cult of Green (talk) 04:02, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Sam Tyler 10 (talk) 03:42, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Any reason the article still needs to be flagged?

Sam Tyler 10 (talk) 22:26, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

These "flags" (which we typically call "tags") get indexed for interested editors to review and correct. In my case I'm reviewing biography type articles which are indexed as lacking a "living" parameter on their WikiProject Biography templates. You will notice that I added "yes" (for living) and a "listas" parameter. Please consider, Sam Tyler, that these are tools which assist WP editors to find, correct, and improve various articles. Thanks. – S. Rich (talk) 06:35, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Stub level

I have removed one reference that supported the existence of a program but it wasn't linked to the subject. This needs a citation. I have added the stub template and notability template but please be aware that some of the sources are passing references to the subject rather than him begin the focus of the article. Cult of Green (talk) 01:03, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

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