Talk:Bill Graham (author)

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I just put up this page last night, it's my first Wiki entry; Saw the comments re grammar/MOS formatting etc- I'd be very grateful for any specific advice & will continue to read the FAQs etc to come up to speed on said topics, cheersNortSide505 (talk) 20:20, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Just a quick run through;

It had too many unsourced opinions. Wikipedia should be neutral and stick to the facts. Let the reader then decide how important/wise/generous he was for themselves.
The problem with "selected works" links is that Wikipedia is not a links directory, and also it is only your opinion that these are good examples.
Wikipedia cannot act as its own source, so you need to cite things from other reliable sources], not to other Wikipedia articles.
The whole U2 thing seems to be overstated and gone over mutiple times. That can't be the only thing he's known for.

But not a bad start for your first article. :) --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 23:13, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for feedback,appreciate it very much- fully take your point re opinions etc ( fwiw, I have no direct connection, commercial or ortherwise to anybody/thing mentioned & am just a fan of Bill Graham's writing).
While I appreciate that Wikipedia is not a links directory, given that this man was an *writer* surely there's logic to including at least a few relevant links? ( Not trying to be glib but if it was (say) Fermat's Last Theorem being discussed, the subject matter is displayed etc?!). I hope it's ok that I've reformatted that section & soft-pedaled it by adding the links as refs <if that's just not WP protocol I fully understand & respect this.>
Regarding "Wikipedia cannot act as its own source"- again I 'get' this..but I <hope> I've rectified that specific issue now by linking directly to the relevant book citation.
While it's understandable the U2 connection may seem overinflated & Graham was known for plenty else ( as alluded to via Niall Stokes comments etc), by same token it shouldn't be underestimated and is at the core of the narrative around Grahams' impact on Irish ( & thus global world) culture.
Can you please point me in the direction of the WK Style Bible ( "MOS Formatting etc)? Sincerely, thank you again for all your direction/advice!!

I've pared down the U2 section & reformatted piece to also emphasize other aspects. NortSide505 (talk) 00:33, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The synthax & grammar has been cleaned-up a lot. I've read the MOS info, but if anybody has specific pointers re formatting this article, I'd appreciate it!! tnx NortSide505 (talk) 23:46, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]