Talk:Billy Hamilton (baseball, born 1866)

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Death date[edit]

It seems like there is a controversy over Hamilton's correct death date. Here are web sites that support December 16:

If there are any sources that support a Dec. 15 death date, then add a citation in an article and we can add a note that there are discrepancies between sources. As of right now, no one has produced a complete citation to support this date of death. Simply saying your claim is supported by "Dictionaries, Encyclopedias, and Facts on File" is not enough. - Mattingly23 17:01, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protect[edit]

Might it be worth putting in a request for page protection? It might at least help reduce the unsourced and specious changes being made. Just a thought... --Ebyabe 16:07, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You would need to semi-protect every page that User:Ron liebman and his various sockpuppets have touched. I recommend you get in touch with the admin User:Wknight94 and see what he thinks, as he has been actively involved in this situation. Wahkeenah 16:13, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks. Conversation has been initiated. :) -Ebyabe 16:35, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Teaser" fact[edit]

Quote from article: "he is one of only three players to average more than one run per game played" It seems to me it might be desirable to have who the other two were? As a Scandinavian reading up on baseball, it makes me curious to know who they might be, and while I'm sure it's not too hard to google, it would be neat to have it close. OMHalck (talk) 22:32, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

912 or 937?[edit]

How many career steals? The baseball hall of fame says 937, but most sites say 912. Timneu22 (talk) 18:18, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Records still held today[edit]

Why is this dubious? It lists them on this page. I suppose you could specify that most are just Phillies records, but the runs scored record in 1894 is an MLB record. Check baseball-reference.com; it's all there. Richjenkins (talk) 01:47, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Because the number is in dispute. I show records saying 198, and records (and MVP Baseball 2005 video game) saying 192. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hamilbi01.shtml shows 198, yet http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Billy_Hamilton and http://archive.alexreisner.com/baseball/stats/player?p=hamilbi01&y=1894 both show the record being 192. The video game i mention also states that Billy Hamilton set the record at 192 runs. VycDarkshadow (talk) 05:11, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Was Hamilton ever recognized as All-Time SB leader?[edit]

Lou Brock was described in 1977 as having broken Ty Cobb's stolen base record. Cobb was recognized as the leader at that time with 892 steals. (Baseball Reference says 897 now.) Was there some reason Hamilton was not recognized as the stolen base leader in 1977? Interestingly, Brock retired with 938, one higher than the highest estimate of Hamilton's total. Did anyone even know about Hamilton? Nowadays, Cobb is in 4th place and not 3rd place, with no explanation that I know of. Tidewater 2014 (talk) 16:38, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I would think likely not recognized in the media at the time since statistics weren't as well kept or published as today. Flibirigit (talk) 18:21, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]