Talk:Black Grape

Unsourced material

I recently added the {POV} tag. The present article is full of unsourced, and extremely dubious, claims. Can someone please re-visit the wording and input some verifiable statements / references etc. Thanks,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 16:01, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Double Entendre

I've heard it said that the name Black Grape was chosen because it sounds like 'black rape'. Is this true? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.44.61.167 (talk) 16:51, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

I understand that Shaun Ryder was accused of Rape earlier in his career (possibly 1991). These allegations were subsequently dropped or found to be baseless.

In British slang, the word 'blag' is used to describe a con or a scam. I believe the title of this band is reference to the false allegations of rape. In that it was a 'blag rape'.

--Babbinel (talk) 11:45, 19 November 2010 (UTC) 12:21, 19 November 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Babbinel (talk • contribs)

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removing POV tag with no active discussion per Template:POV

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Britpop

Does anyone consider Black Grape Britpop? They seem too dance to be part of the era. It would be grateful if someone who is knowledgeable with Britpop can help. Dean12065 (talk) 16:23, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Not really a Britpop band but an act whose name might get included in Britpop lists along with Ocean Colour Scene and Reef due to Shaun Ryder's association with TFI Friday and the fact there wasn't that many chart topping bands of note from the period.

The Britpop Story blog doesn't state that they are a Britpop act but because they were a 'new band' active in the mid 90s (even with Shaun Ryder and Bez being involved) and from Manchester, they might get thrown into the mix rather than The Stone Roses as new scenes are generally about new sounds/new bands not 'yesterday's men' (unless you can be seen as a 'Godfather of the Scene' or in the case of Paul Weller: 'Modfather' of the scene).

If Black Grape had been American they would have probably been an act signed to/found in Grand Royal (with all those humorous articles about mullets), but these days its getting to the point where any 1990s indie/guitar rock from Britain is getting classed as Britpop (e.g. Manic Street Preachers) even though at the time it was generally more an English scene with Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland having their own indie music movements like Cool Cymru etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.152.238.174 (talk) 17:19, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

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