Talk:Bleed It Out

Release date

Release date... First, it says 31 July, then 20 August (so-called released)... which one is true? I always get news from lp.com lpstreetteam.com their youtube and myspace, and nobody said that it has been released... and today is the 10th of August, so it couldn't have been releasED on 20 August (maybe 'will be released on 20 August')... Jeez, just fix it...

What is so wrong that I put up. I did like the person who changed the 'tie-in' to 'transistional'. But it IS the third song in the album to include an expletive. First song - "Given Up" - Includes the f word Second song - "Leave Out All the Rest" - Includes the s word Third song - "Bleed It Out" - Includes the f word Fourth song - "Hands Held High" - Includes the f word I believe there is another song with an expletive, though. So, please, STOP SAYING IT IS THE SECOND SONG WITH AN EXPLETIVE!!!. Thank you. Wandering_In_My_Mind_. 15:40, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Hip-Hop Beats isn't a genre. Can someone put the RIGHT type of genre? RichV 16:50, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Leave Out all the Rest doesn't have the s word

Oh... sorry... Wandering_In_My_Mind_. 17:35, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

to Wandering_In_My_Mind, it does sound like the s word but it's not. it's "I've SHARED that I made" even the booklet says it. otherwise that part would be censored in the clean version.

I don't think this song is rapcore. Read Wikipedia's article on rapcore, this isn't it. Also, I put the thing about it being the 2nd song to have profanity, might not sound very professional the way I put it, though.

Leave out all the rest contains absolutely no profanity. This should be edited. 64.230.127.22 14:44, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Crowd?

How come there's no mention of the fact that it sounds live? There's people talking, clapping, cheering. I think this is pretty notable, how come there's no mention? Titan50 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 19:34, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, the concert would've been very small. At all LP concerts, about 5,000 or so people come, and in the song it sounds like about 10 or 15 people. Bentu (talk) 02:50, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

It's still not mentioned, yet very notable! I heard someone say there wasn't enough time to record it in a studio so they had to play it live and record it there (which doesn't sound like LP. Anyway, it contradicts itself, cos What I've Done was the last song to be recorded) Titan50 (talk) 20:48, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

The video is really badly dubbed, thats not a live version playing —Preceding unsigned comment added by Reue (talk • contribs) 01:44, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm not talking about the video. If you listen not very carefully you can clearly hear people in the background Titan50 (talk) 17:56, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

That's how the song's supposed to sound. It's part of the song. They intentionally put the sounds in it. It's definitely not live. Timmeh! 18:37, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Classic Metal

Please I'd like to be aware why 'Bleed It Out' is classic metal?

It's not.Hallander 19:22, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

It is. Have you not heard AC/DC? It is similar to that, and they are supposed to be the pioneers of classi59.182.160.169 07:09, 24 August 2007 (UTC)c metal aren;t they?

Ummm this song nor is Linkin Park classic metal. If you go to Wiki's page for classic metal, it defines as: heavy metal bands from the 1970s and 1980s who peaked later than the late 1960s and early 1970s pioneers of the genre, yet before the era when mainstream and underground heavy metal became seriously divided

Sorry but Linkin Park is not part of that genre. They're not even heavy metal. Tjohnsond 01:00, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Huh?

I would like to know why this song is "the only track off of the album that, in any sort of way, resembles the song structure of most tracks off of previous releases"...? The structure of "What I've Done" sounds a lot like Numb, in fact most of the songs on the whole album do have a sense of familiarity to the band's old stuff. If anyone can clarify this?

It's irrelevant to the article and it's gone. Hello2112 17:59, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Cover art

Stop changing please, that's the back cover that's in the article now. I'm putting the actualy cover back in. Hello2112 17:59, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Video Release

Video is set to premiere tomorrow, July 31, 2007. Changed it in the music video description.

It'll be premiered today @ 17.35 CEST on MTV Germany ;)

Here's a link to the video if somebody wants to add it to the main page: http://www.ifilm.com/video/2883247?ns=1 Nagelsportsnut 20:47, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Nu Metal

WTF? None of Linkin Park's new stuff is nu metal. I'm taking it off right now! Lpfan4eva1990 16:51, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

look up nu metal and come back.--Greenday21 (talk) 21:16, 13 June 2008 (UTC)Greenday21

NOT NU METAL AND NOT ALT-METAL

FIRST:The new stuff is not Nu Metal! and second: Bleed it out is not alternative metal because alt-metal sounds more heavier! its just alternative rock/rapcore —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.167.204.34 (talk) 11:53, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes. You are right. It's definitely not Alternative Metal.JCStreetSoldier1234 (talk) 05:58, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Jusr because MtM as a whole isn't nu metal doesn't mean Bleed It Out can't be. To Be Loved by Papa Roach is the only nu metal song on their album The Paramour Sessions, which is mostly hard rock/post grunge/alt metal. Bleed It Out definitely sounds and feels like a nu metal song, it's arguable the most similar to their older songs. Jerkov (talk) 20:17, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I would have to agree that the song is rapcore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crowthd (talk • contribs) 01:48, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Bleed It Out: The fastest track on Minutes?

It can't be! Given Up is a much faster track than Bleed It Out. I even ran the two tracks through FL Studio 5's BPM analyzer, and it confirms it.

Song	Average BPM
Bleed It Out	140
Given Up	200

The only way anyone could get Bleed It Out faster than Given Up is if you incorrectly counted the guitar as the song's BPM instead of the drums. Given Up is the faster track. --ToyoWolf 19:28, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

By hearing it it's the fastest track, that's the point of it. You could note that Given Up is actually faster, but it's about what you hear by ear. 008'/,treme 13:37, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Given up is definitely faster. And the only way u could tell its faster is by hearing it by ear. Tim Y (talk) 19:40, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Genre?

I was wondering if Bleed it out has a few combos of genre. Cause while it has rapcore and sounds alot like alt. rock, I can hear elements of bluegrass (tambarine by Rob Bourdon and low bass piano played by Mr Hahn via his Midi pad soundboard.) and sorta has a feel of country rock at times too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bart-16 (talk • contribs) 04:19, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm surprised that nobody else has suggested this yet, but isn't this song something of a parody? Linkin Park almost seem to be lampooning themselves with this song, which is composed heavily of both musical and lyric cliches. Straight from the opening lyric, "Here we go for the hundredth time...", the listener is alerted that *something* about this song will be routine, mundane, or banal. The inclusion of the lyric "Doesn't matter how hard I try" (wasn't that a prominent lyric in another wildly popular Linkin Park song?), followed immediately with "Half the words don't mean a thing" serve to reinforce this concept. Even the form (structure) of the music follows a cookbook recipe: intro, verse, chorus, second verse, chorus, bridge, breakdown section, chorus, coda. Just a thought... 71.62.82.126 20:21, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Isn't the recipe for the averge LP song instrumental intro, vocal intro, chorus, variation on vocal intro, chorus, bridge then chorus? Bentu (talk) 02:50, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Huh, I realized that too. I remember the first time I heard that song it reminded me of In The End somehow. That's a good point.

Jay59 (talk) 04:24, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Bleed it Out reminds me of thier old songs as it follows the same structure and has both the rapping and screaming vocals like thier Nu-metal songs such as In The End and Faint so doesn't Bleed it Out nearly verge on Nu-metal rather than Alt-rock. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.239.87.27 (talk) 02:15, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Bleed It Out is basically rapcore/alternative metal. I don't know why alternative rock is up there, but I'm changing it to alt metal. The song is more of a combination of different music styles as stated in the first comment in this section, and I think alternative metal best describes the song. Timmeh! 02:21, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Even the form (structure) of the music follows a cookbook recipe: intro, verse, chorus, second verse, chorus, bridge, breakdown section, chorus, coda. and Isn't the recipe for the averge LP song instrumental intro, vocal intro, chorus, variation on vocal intro, chorus, bridge then chorus? It should be noted that this is also a typical nu metal song structure. If you ask me BIO is the one song on MtM that could still be counted as nu metal, similar to Papa Roach's To Be Loved.

Rap Metal does not = Nu Metal. The guitar has a more rythmic sound than Nu Metal and Nu Metal's song structure is borrowed off Alternative Rock (one of the reasons why there is debate as to wheather it's a rock or metal genre). Alt Metal/Rap Metal is a much better suit than Nu Metal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.13.54 (talk) 08:42, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

The statement about it as a parody is interesting, I never looked at it that way but your right, Linkin Park have mentioned that they had alot of fun with song which ties into that aswell —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.132.103.183 (talk) 03:09, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

This song isn't alternative metal. That's the most ridiculous I've seen. How is it alternative metal? It was originally saying alternative rock and one guy changed it to alt metal because he said he personally believes it bests describes it when that's unsourced, has no consensus, and only suits his own view. But this song isn't metal. How????? Real alt metal is System of a down, Nothingface, Slipknot and Helmet. This song isn't loud, it isn't heavy, the guitars aren't too distorted or amplified so how is this metal? It only sounds like the early work by the band because of the turntables and rapping. But the guitars however have less distortion and stuff. Please see how alternative metal is defined. This song can be called rap rock and I got it sourced so let's leave it there. It describes it as electronic/rap rock. The review specifically contrasts it with their louder, heavier and distorted sound, saying bleed it out only was similar to the old stuff ONLY for the rapping and DJs, NOT distortions/heaviness/etc. The only heavy track off the album is Given Up. But it isn't rap rock or nu metal but it's alt metal. In this album it's said they abandoned their roots of nu metal and alternative metal mixed with rap and alt rock. Only given up is rather alt metal than nu metal. It has no heavy riffs. and it's guitars sound like U2. But U2 isn't metal, they're more alternative/post-punk. All these articles describe given up as the only heavy track. And bleed it out as only being similar to the roots for the rapping and electronics, NOT heaviness and distortion and I looked at all reviews of Linkin Park's song bleed it out and this album and NONE call bleed it out metal. Just rap rock and stuff. calling it metal is misleading. LPK225 (talk) 22:31, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

References

Similar to numb

This song has a striking similarity to Numb, the piano bit in the background before the chorus is the same as in Encore/Numb and the bit where he holds the "out" on the second to last chorus is the same as in Numb when he does it for the word "awake". Listen to them both and you will get what I mean —Preceding unsigned comment added by PayneXKiller (talk • contribs) 19:31, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

I see what you mean; the overall structure of the song is quite similar to classic LP songs, alternating between Chester and Mike (in this order: Mike-Chester-Mike-Chester, with Chester doing the chorus and finishing out the song). The speed and structure make it similar to Faint especially. Jerkov (talk) 15:27, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Parentheses Around Song Names

It's really bugging me; I know it's trivial and all, but is it really necessary to put parentheses around all of the song names in this article? I don't think so. It get's confusing.

For example, there was this one line that read ' "What I've Done"'s '... That looked a bit awkward to me. And it doesn't appear on several of the other song articles under this same album, and under the other Linkin Park albums as well.

Jay59 (talk) 04:23, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Those are quotation marks. Bentu (talk) 02:50, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Rap metal not rap rock

It's called rap metal when hip hop and metal is mixed together and it's called rap rock when hip hop and rock is mixed together that means that we should change it to rap metal. --Alice Mudgardens (talk) 21:08, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

The only problem with your idea though is that rap metal just redirects to rap rock. The two are basically one in the same. I'm changing it back. Timmeh! 21:43, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure why the genre is listed as rapcore - the main LP talk page suggested that it should be Rap rock, since rapcore doe not have its own article yet. Unless, someone has a source that specifically mentions that song is rapcore. and not rap rock.--  StarScream1007  ►Talk  16:19, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Rap metal, rap rock and rapcore is all the same thing, it's just Wikipedia doesn't like to put up with all kid's slang nowadays. YBK

Ah, no the genres are three diferent ones, there are three diferent articles now... see 'em > rap rock, rap metal, rapcore. Ignore my old comment above this one. GunMetal Angel 20:44, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

I get the difference between rap rock and rap metal, but what's the difference between either of these two and rapcore? Isn't rapcore basically the same as rap metal? Jerkov (talk) 16:51, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Shortest song on album?

I'm pretty sure that "Wake" was the shortest. This is the 2nd to shortest. 67.170.62.6 (talk) 05:07, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Promotion

I support promotion of this article. Quoting from the assesment scale:

[A start-class] article has a meaningful amount of good content, but it is still weak in many areas, and may lack a key element. For example an article on Africa might cover the geography well, but be weak on history and culture. Has at least one serious element of gathered materials, including any one of the following:

• a particularly useful picture or graphic
• multiple links that help explain or illustrate the topic
• a subheading that fully treats an element of the topic
• multiple subheadings that indicate material that could be added to complete the article

The article has all four of these. Stub-class is entirely too low. Teh Rote (talk) 16:13, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

It is now start class. Timmeh! 16:19, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Lyrically...

"Lyrically, the song is about the thrill one gets while driving fast cars."

What? 81.70.35.12 (talk) 17:33, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Alternative metal is removed

It has no source — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheMetallican (talk • contribs) 00:34, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

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"live performance" appears twice

it does Natanoli (talk) 14:23, 25 January 2024 (UTC)