Talk:Bletchley Flyover

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Fiennes's quote[edit]

We have a difference of view on the value of this quote:

The Bletchley flyover remains as a memorial to those who failed to see that railways must live by concentration and not dispersal.
— Gerry Fiennes, 1967^[1]^[a]

It seem to me to be highly relevant that, a very short time after it was built, the Chief Operating Officer of BR declared it to have been a waste of money and a monumental white elephant. Subsequent history proved him right. How is that not encyclopaedic? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 07:55, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

^ Gerry Fiennes was Chief Operating Officer, British Railways, 1961–63

References

^ G F Fiennes (1973). "7. Chief Operating Officer, B.R.". I tried to run a Railway (Revised ed.). London: Ian Allan Ltd. ISBN 9780711004474.

I think it's mainly a question of presentation. Quotes are easy to misuse, and the purpose of Wikipedia should be to provide factual information, and it is easy to use a quote in a way that fails WP:INDISCRIMINATE and/or WP:UNDUE. If you present it in the right way, it shouldn't be a problem. WT79 ^{(speak to me | editing patterns | what I been doing)} 08:44, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, a side box would be much better (which is how I did it originally) but it just looked silly for such a short article. I used that technique at Milton Keynes, where I think [well, I would!] it works well. I can put it back in its box if that is preferred? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 11:43, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reinstated. Does that work? WT79 ^{(speak to me | editing patterns | what I been doing)} 09:08, 1 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That works for me. I'm happy.

Does anybody care that the citation is for the second edition (1973) – where the relevant page is accessible via Google Books – rather than the first edition (1967), which isn't. (The first edition citation is available under Bibliography at the Gerry Fiennes article, if anyone wants it). --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 09:42, 1 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

'for engineering use'[edit]

I have no idea what reopened for engineering use' means. Please somebody simplify/clarify/explain, in the article. jw (talk) 22:28, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It means that it is only open for trains carrying materials needed down the line to construct the railway, such as carrying ballast. Maybe someone can propose a nice way of saying that. One of the (originally quarterly) EWR2 Project Newsletters has a citation. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 00:21, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[2] Gerry Fiennes was Chief Operating Officer, British Railways, 1961–63

[fiennes-1] G F Fiennes (1973). "7. Chief Operating Officer, B.R.". I tried to run a Railway (Revised ed.). London: Ian Allan Ltd. ISBN 9780711004474.

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