Talk:Blokovi

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Please, keep in mind that Wikipedia is encyclopedia and not a soapbox. --millosh (talk (meta:)) 18:48, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I do not see what does soapbox policy have anything to do with the lyrics. The lyrics in question do not relate to any commercial promotion -- in fact, they are unattributed. They are relevant because they depict an important aspect of the culture in the Bloks. -Ketzman

Besides you didn't read what the article soapbox is about, the lyrics of the song belongs to the field of original research. And, besides all of that, lyrics are completely irrelevant. So, please, read first What Wikipedia is not and then continue to contribute. --millosh (talk (meta:)) 10:44, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, I appreciate your work on articles about Novi Beograd. However, a lot of the content which you added is completely without sources. Please, find sources and then continue to add content. Otherwise, only the most obvious facts would be able to stay inside of the articles. --millosh (talk (meta:)) 10:44, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note that I am not rigid toward added content and that it is completely possible that if someone more rigid comes here a lot of your work may become deleted only because you are insisting on completely irrelevant, unsourced and trivial content. --millosh (talk (meta:)) 10:44, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There are 2 issues here. The first issue is what is considered "original research"; the second, what is considered to be irrelevant.

So, let us see policy on original research, indeed. The definition of original research is:

"1. Primary (original) research such as proposing theories and solutions, original ideas, defining terms, coining new words."

By quoting the song I am certainly not providing any "new theories or solutions," nor I am "defining terms, coining new words." The song given (which, is, btw, a common knowledge in blokivi), is not original research. Besides, much of the article is not quoted anyhow; singling out my contribution as "not being quoted" is laughable.

Now, moving on to the "irrelevance" issue. I have posted the song, and thus I clearly think that it is relevant. Another 2 wiki users have taken time to translate the Serbian text I have posted into English, and thus they clearly think it is relevant. You, on the other hand, are the only user who has claimed the "irrelevance" so far. You are clearly in the minority. Even a casual observer, who has never visited Blokovi, or Serbia for that matter, can see why the text of the song that equates Blokovi with Ghetto is relevant in the section called "The public image of blokivi."

Frankly, I cannot believe that we are having a discussion about this. This is ridiculous. I have wasted enough of my time on this as is. - Ketzman —Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.66.150.198 (talk) 03:15, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

You didn't provide relevant source and I think that you make this song. So, from my point of view, you did original research. --millosh (talk (meta:)) 23:47, 1 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
According to one, you broke the rule Wikipedia:Verifiability, too because there is no verifiable source for this song. --millosh (talk (meta:)) 23:47, 1 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
What do you think that it is relevant don't need to be relevant to Wikipedia, too. BTW, if the children's original song, which your song parodies doesn't have an article, this one may not be relevant. --millosh (talk (meta:)) 23:47, 1 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I don't believe too that you are pushing your subcultural trivia onto one encyclopedia. --millosh (talk (meta:)) 23:47, 1 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]