Talk:Blue Comet SPT Layzner/Archive 1

Writing style

Please note that I haven't actually watched the series in question; I've only pieced together summaries. Also, I realize that my writing style is a bit flamboyant, especially for a dictionary, so please edit as needed. Thank you. Viewer 13:17, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Hey, don't worry about it, finding anybody who knows ANYTHING about this Series, much less somebody who has seen just the compilation OVAs alone is rare enough.

I blame Bandai for not letting this Series shine in North America: and I really doubt it'll show up since one its major settings is a post-apocalyptic New York, complete with a WTC. —This unsigned comment was added by 203.158.60.186 (talk • contribs) .

I just wanted to say that it's really great how much more information's been added; it makes me feel a little proud when articles like this take off. Viewer 09:32, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

There's still plenty more to come...I might write some profiles for the 1999 Characters and the SPTs. Along with an Episode List...

Rename Blue Comet to Blue Meteor?

I would like suggest renaming the entire page from Blue Comet SPT Layzner to Blue Meteor SPT Layzner. The reason for this being the actual translation of the kanji. You can use Babel Fish to translate if you wish, but given the inaccuracy of web-based translation applications, I have the following evidence. Before they were merged with other agencies to form JAXA, the Institute of Space and Astronautical Science launched a probe in August 1985 to study Halley's Comet. It was nicknamed 'SUISEI'. An experimental reentry capsule, nicknamed 'RYUSEI', was launched in February 1994 by NASDA. I think the names for these craft alone is telling enough of the Japanese meaning for those words.

I suppose all the confusion comes from the SPT Layzner's V-MAX system, which leaves a stream of blue energy behind it when engaged. It could be described as looking like a comet. Meteors do have a tail, as they only become meteors when they hit the Earth's atmosphere. Before this they are meteoroids, and should they impact on the Earth's surface they become meteorites (I admit I had to look up the differences myself). 'Ryusei' can also translate as 'shooting star' or 'falling star', which is a commonly thought of as streaks of light in the sky.

A search of 'Layzner' reveals two pages (a third page comes up blank) of potential links that would need to be updated. I, for one, would be willing to make all the changes required. - Lord_Satorious 16:01, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

The EDICT dictionary (http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/wwwjdic.html) and all of my paper dictionaries agree that 'meteor' is the correct translation, so I moved the page. I updated the links, except for some archives and so forth, which I thought best left in their original form. Normad Zeta 02:06, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Doing a quickie search on Google (and excluding wikipedia and mirrors), "Blue Comet SPT Layzner" has about 9 times the number of results as "Blue Meteor SPT Layzner" (about 1700 vs. about 190). Wikipedia doesn't go by the most acurate translation of the title, but rather the most commonly used title. Therefore, this article needs to be moved back. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 03:10, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Given that there's been no official english-language, maybe it ought to be moved to its japanese title? Unless Bandai gave it an official name when they were going to release it here... Snarfies 01:31, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, we go by the most common title, and since nothing has been posted here (outside of your comment) for over a week, I'm moving the article back. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 06:50, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

About the "Fansubs" line

It seems some editors are wanting to add a line about "fansubs of the show surfacing". Not only was it correct to remove this because no source was provided, but, to the best of my knowledge, no source can be provided because there are no fansubs beyond token episode 1 translations. Shin-Getter has been planning to sub Layzner for a long time, but they still haven't gotten a translator. Lupin Gang did produce a translation for most of the episodes, but it was of poor quality, and created back in the era of VHS, so it's basically irrelevant now, neither notable nor likely to become notable. Only if there was an extremely well-known fan translation so important as to be referenced in outside sources would it become notable enough for inclusion. Layzner (Talk) 20:41, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

An update to this comment: Episodes 1 through 38 have been fan subbed as of 2014. <removed> As far as notability can be assessed, the top result for a Google search of <removed> is <removed>. After that, it's forums. I'm not sure if it qualifies for notability in the article, but it should be noted in the talk pages, nine years after the original comment. 65.60.136.24 (talk) 03:46, 14 June 2016 (UTC) Someone who came here looking for per-episode plot summaries

Please do not post links or descriptions on how to find illegal content. While not a direct violation of the letter of WP:LINKVIO, it is breaches its intent. —Farix (t | c) 04:23, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

My apologies. I wanted to cite the existence of the complete fansubs, and figured that it was okay to say who had done them, given the 2007 comment citing the Lupin Gang translation. But you are correct that the description of where to find the subs was a violation in spirit of WP:LINKVIO. The full-show fansubs aren't really well-known, but I think they're noteworthy since the show was never officially dubbed. But any citation of the existence of those subs will likely run into WP:LINKVIO. The only non-forum, non-download-site, site with a name that discusses the existence of the subs is TvTropes - can that site be cited as a source for the small fact that was removed in this revision? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.60.136.24 (talk) 01:51, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

No, TV Tropes is not a reliable source. Nor should the existence of fansub be mentioned in the article. —Farix (t | c) 15:24, 15 June 2016 (UTC)