Talk:Bobby Valentine

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Future as Mets Manager[edit]

There is no evidence in New York that Bobby Valentine will return as the Mets manager. Before reverting someone's edits, please ensure that there's an actual reason to revert them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.69.127.132 (talk) 21:39, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Career Record[edit]

On the right section, the career win/loss record reflects only his time with Texas and not with the Mets. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.85.127.85 (talk) 02:00, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Saturday Night Massacre?[edit]

Why are the trades from June 15, 1977 referred to as the "Saturday Night Massacre"? June 15, 1977 was a Wednesday.

The "Saturday Night Massacre" commonly refers to Richard Nixon's firing of Archibald Cox as Watergate special prosecutor. Elliot Richardson and William Ruckelshaus also were fired from the Attorney General's office for refusing to fire Ruckelshaus. None of which has anything to do with the Tom Seaver or Dave Kingman trades. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Calliaume (talk • contribs) 20:23, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The massacre happened on June 5, when the coaches were fired. I don't have a source, but this should be fixt by an intrepid editor on both this page and the Mets page. 146.243.4.157 (talk) 15:18, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Red Sox Manager[edit]

Hi, just thought I'd create this to cut off the edits at the pass: he has not yet been offered the position of Manager of the Boston Red Sox. He and Gene Lamont were the two finalists; Lamont is reportedly out. However, again, no job offer has been extended to Bobby. Will update the page if/when it becomes official. --Boston Burkenation (talk) 23:16, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

While it isn't official yet, it is being widely reported that Bobby Valentine has already been hired to be the next Red Sox skipper. See an ESPN report here: ESPN, and an AP report here: AP. In any event, we'll know for sure in just a few hours. Go Braves! Mike (talk) 07:13, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:Crystal; Wikipedia is not a Crystal ball, and until he is introduced to the Boston Media as the Manager he should not be listed as their manager. --Boston Burkenation (talk) 16:00, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Per MLB.com, a deal is "reportedly close". While in practical terms that means he will almost assuredly be the manager, HE IS NOT PRESENTLY THE MANAGER. I'm getting tired of being the only person reverting factually inaccurate information here. Since I'm probably at 3RR, I'd appreciate it if you'd revert it Boston. It's fine to source that he's on the verge of becoming Boston's manager, but it's not okay to say he IS Boston's manager. Especially as of the 2011 season, which is what the infobox presently says. The 2011 season ended with Game 7 of the World Series. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:08, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Done! Check it out feel free to tweak my edits (I didn't revert, I just made changes) --Boston Burkenation (talk) 16:32, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. We're good now. For now. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:31, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It's actually official now. There is a press conference scheduled tomorrow at 5:30 to introduce Bobby as their new manager. –nbsp;(Metfan722) (Metfan722 #top|talk) 19:44 (7:44 PM), 30 November 2011 (UTC)
But that is over 12 hours away. you know what can happen in twelve hours?

1) Bobby could change his mind; 2) Bobby could get hit by a bus, and die; 3) The Red Sox could be bought by another ownership group that immediately decided to not hire Valentine; 4) ESPN could change their mind and not release Valentine from his contract; 5) Major League Baseball could decide to block the hire; 6) The Blue Jays could fire John Farrell, who was the original first choice of the Red Sox. With Farrell unemployed, the Sox would be free to hire him. There are a million things that could happen between now, 11:12 PM EST Wednesday November 30th 2011 and 5:30 PM EST Thursday December 1st 2011. Are they likely? No. But they are all possible. Therefore, he cannot be listed as the manager until Ben Cherington or Larry Lucchino introduces him as the next Red Sox manager. that will be no earlier than 5:31 PM EST, Thursday December 1st 2011. --Boston Burkenation (talk) 04:17, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

it's official (press conference is going on as I type this), so I changed the following: added "Boston Red Sox" under the team= field; added this job to the Sporting positions box; reworded the intro to reflect the official status of the hire; changed "2011-Present" to "Present" Under "As a Manager...Boston Red Sox (Present"); 2011-present is inaccurate, and 2012-present is impossible. --Boston Burkenation (talk) 22:53, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

as a side note I added a note about his uniform number under the Red Sox section. Specifically, he chose number 25 to honor Tony 'Tony C' Conigliaro, who was a native son of New England and played for his beloved Red Sox before tragically being injured during the 1967 "Impossible Dream" Season of the Boston Red Sox. Bobby was briefly a roommate of Conigilaro when Tony was attempting to make a comeback during Spring Training 1976. --Boston Burkenation (talk) 20:12, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Racist[edit]

"The Marines decided to let Valentine go after the 2009 season after an extensive smear campaign led by Korean-Japanese club president Ryuzo Setoyama"

Why is it worth noting that this guy was Korean-Japanese? Does that somehow add to the fact that he lead a smear campaign? Like Korean-Japanese people in Japan are known for leading smear campaigns?

It's no different then going, "a smear campaign lead by Jew club president" or "a smear campaign led by black club president". Completley unneccessary and inflammatory. Meme3234 (talk) 11:59, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tags[edit]

Hi All. This article came up in my search for pages mentioning "industry-leading." I noticed it contains promotional phrases and poor wording, such as an "innovative" marketing campaign and an "industry-leading" fantasy sports team. Also, about half of the article is unsourced.

However, I didn't feel personally qualified to address the issues, being that I have no knowledge or interest in sports. I flagged it for now in the hopes an editor better-suited for the topic will come by. CorporateM (Talk) 23:32, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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