Talk:Boreal woodland caribou

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Photo of woodland caribou[edit]

Male and female woodland caribou (Rangifer tarandus caribou) in late summer in Muncho Lake Provincial Park, British Columbia is a copyrighted image: Image ID: CFHM42 Copyright: © Cliff LeSergent / Alamy Stock Photo and cannot be used in a Wikipedia article. There are no Creative Commons images available of the woodland caribou which is why there was only an image of the coin.Oceanflynn (talk) 16:30, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Hi KylieTastic for reverting this article to the image of the woodland caribou on the coin. I had added this image months ago because it is the only Creative Commons image I could find. I am sure the new editor Razurjet meant well by attempting to add the stock photo. I agree that this article should have better images. I did not change the image. I tried to change the error message male_female_woddlandcaribou.png but soon realized it wasn't a spelling mistake. It was the image itself that was the problem as I noted above. I like to have a clean editing record so I am clarifying this.Oceanflynn (talk) 20:32, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hi Oceanflynn I think we all agree it would be great to have a proper image - I had a quick look on Flickr and this came up as option [1] its CC BY 2.0 so could be uploaded to commons. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:40, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hello KylieTastic and Oceanflynn. My apologies for this. The photo was part of a project my son had done not so long ago. I was using my sons computer when I edited the image of the coin, and had used the image and the description from the presentation he had made. Had I known it was copyrighted I wouldn't have uploaded it. I can assure you that it was not my intention to cause any trouble. I still, however believe that a more suiting image should be chosen to represent the woodland caribou on Wikipedia. But I will kindly refrain from editing any more articles without the guidance of a more experienced editor. Again, my apologies. Razurjet (talk) 15:35, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi Razurjet no harm was done and we have a 'rule' around here Be bold - as long as the intent was good (which it was) we encourage people to edit. So don't be afraid to Be bold in the future. In this case it flagged the issue, I've found an image, and when I've got a moment I'll get around to sorting transferring from flickr - so your edit in the end will have a positive outcome :) If you do see something you want to edit and this incident makes you hesitate just Be bold or ask at the Wikipedia:Teahouse. All the best KylieTastic (talk) 22:44, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks Razurjet for sharing the story about how your son's project motivated you to edit Wikipedia and I really hope that you will continue to edit Wikipedia articles. It is a truly satisfying activity in so many ways and Wikipedia needs new editors. It can be a bit challenging as a new editor because most of us learn by making mistakes and our first edits may well be deleted. One of the things that amazes me about the Wikipedia process, is how quickly mistakes are corrected. When you are writing on your own personal projects, you have to catch all your own errors. You've already opened the edit window once so why stop now. If you don't have much time, you can start with minor edits such as punctuation, spelling etc. If you want to do more I may be able to help. I like to try things by using the sandbox mode where you can use the templates, etc but the article is not published immediately to Wikipedia. Since you wanted to add a photo you could try to do it again in the sandbox, perhaps with one of your own photos from a vacation or a significant site near your home. Wikipedia loves historic plaques for example. Anyhow, as KylieTastic mentioned, there are lots of resources for new users. Please don't refrain from editing. Every edit counts and is an act of kindness. And kudos to your son for getting you started. Oceanflynn (talk) 16:40, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wow! Thank you both, KylieTastic and Oceanflynn, so much. And the picture added is great! Thank you. And Oceanflynn I'll be sure to check out that sandbox. Anyway, thank you both and Merry Christmas! Razurjet (talk) 8:59, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
  • Hello TikTokkers. Oh wait. I've tried to say this a couple of times now but it doesn't seem to stick. There's an issue with the designation in the conservation box. Caribou in the South Selkirk are NOT boreal caribou, currently they're designated as Southern Mountain. I understand it's complicated and if you want to watch a room full of eyes roll back in boredom start talking about how we name caribou. But, all boreal caribou are woodland caribou but not all woodland caribou are boreal caribou. The map shows the distribution of woodland caribou, not just boreal.75.155.214.162 (talk) 23:56, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Maybe help me try to say this concisely? There are two kinds of caribou - Woodland and Barren Ground. Barren ground are the massive hers in the northern tundra, the subject of "Being Caribou". Woodland caribou are separated into 3 'ecotypes' - Boreal, Northern, and Mountain. All of them are Rangifer tarandus and separated based on feeding and migratory behaviour. COSEWIC has done away with a lot of that instead focussing on Designatable Units. But the point for boreal is that they exist ONLY within the boreal forest in the north. I might make an account to describe it better, but I've been dealing with caribou conservation my entire professional life of about 25 years.
    • There is no well accepted definition of "reindeer", the best one I have is that reindeer are essentially domesticated caribou, like the laplanders and Santa have. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.155.214.162 (talk) 00:03, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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